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Kher anyways folks, its HT ppl AKA all show and no go for over half a century. why even bother ;)
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the question asked earlier was what wud ur response be if u or ur family were in one of the those horricfic situation??????
aaloo cholay: i didn't realize you were so averse to desi snacks, perhaps you should put that in your profile too.
i see no point in wasting my time with you, i think a wall would be more open to reasoning. please go back to pakistan, specifically in the northwest. you will fit in fine there. i believe you are a danger to both muslims and non-muslims if you continue living in the west. you are better off living in a mutually reinforcing society that will pad your mind with lies that you can easily accept, as opposed to facts that will contradict your jihadi brainwashing. thank you for your points-of-view, they fit in nicely with what i have heard about people like you. if you have any self-respect, you will move back to pakistan...else you must admit that YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE. "Do as I say, not as I do" should be your motto. This conversation is over. Go home and give our salaams, one behalf of all American Muslims, to Uncle Osama. Tell him we'll be coming to wish him a happy Eid soon. Perhaps you two can live together in Guantanamo Bay.
"la kum deena kum wal yadeen"
TUMS
Thanks for showing your true colours!
People like like you come dime a dozen on this Forum.
Confused but dangerous!
Peace. And I mean it literally!
I was thinking of giving a long speech for this thread but then i thought that what my teacher says; all of you are mature enough that you should be able to differentiate between right and wrong. Therefore, i won't comment much, would just say a few words.
Lets suppose you've got a brother who has adapted some wrong path. Lets say he has made habit of stealing. No matter how much the world is gonna criticise him, try to punish him, you'll be the one who would always seek to make him quit such habits and teach him the good way. You would always cover his mistakes and politely preach him.
Lets look at this case, first i would like to appreciate the way this american has addressed to Bin Laden. Our american muslim brother THINKS that his brother in islam, stamped by the world as the biggest terrorist has adapted a wrong way. Just look at the beautiful way he is quoting Ayahs and Hadiths just for the sake of Laden's correctness and saving him from hell.
Now its upto u to decide isn't it jahalat to prefer ur brother over a non-believer. Isn't it extremely foolish to pray for a non-muslim and wish a muslim to goto hell?
There is no point that whether Osama or Taliban are right or wrong. One should always have a positive thinking for his fellow muslim brother and should always seek to make him/her come to right path.
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*Originally posted by al_nasar: *
the question asked earlier was what wud ur response be if u or ur family were in one of the those horricfic situation??????
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which one, the one where some military guy shoots my brother for his ethnicity? or where some guy blows up himself and my brother due to his religion?
is there only one set of vixtims in the world?
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which one, the one where some military guy shoots my brother for his ethnicity? or where some guy blows up himself and my brother due to his religion?
is there only one set of vixtims in the world?
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Well if it wasnt for the non islamic system's implemnted over us, then ur bro wudnt hav been shot. And so much 4 USA judicery, 1000's remain in prisons without no charges or proof, and lets not forget Camp X-ray, i guess thats what you guys call justice. (one rule for the 1's who make the laws, and a different rule 4 those who are victims of the law)
And lets also not forget the 100's who have been arrested in Europe but guess what they havnt been charged with anything aswell and also no evidence found!!...
as for ur other question,its pretty simple...if ur land was taken away by sum1,and ur families,ur house,ur whole way of life destroyed, dont tell me u wud just turn the other cheek and let things be by gones
lets imagine if all the jews wher placed in england, and all the english kicked out of their country and made refugees in their own land and made prisoners in their own land...i dont think the English wud turn the otha cheek or not do anything!!!
The most baffling and ironic thing about the original post is that Osama who was alleged for the approx 3000 innocent deaths is classed as a criminal by the 'so called' muslims here, and George W Dumbo who killed more than the 3000 innocents in Afghanistan alone and is about to embark on 000's plus deaths of more innocents in Iraq is being hailed as a hero!
A word of advice for all his supporters.
The next time they meet him, they should kiss his ass, look him in the eye and eloquently say ' fiqr nahain karna, hum TUM ke saath hain'!
I believe if there were a true definition of "religous extremist" somewhere, it would state that extremists defend their fellow radicals outside of any logic soley because they belong to the same professed religion.
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A word of advice for all his supporters.
The next time they meet him, they should kiss his ass, look him in the eye and eloquently say ' fiqr nahain karna, hum TUM ke saath hain'!
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Are you taking about Osama and his supporters? Because it'll be very hard for you to kiss his ass when he is dead.
Imdad
So I take it that you went to the same school as Bush?
I see the resembelence in the intelligence level.
You both seem to have a certain trait in understanding comments.
No need to answer.
It's people like you, who pretend to come on with Muslim nicks and in reality have a Non Muslim belief system with a hidden agenda, that I like to break apart and set up to fail.
Unfortunately for you, you fell for the bait at the beginning of the post. I will take great pleasure in giving you the education of your life. Don't worry though, you are not the first and not the last.
sholay: i pity you.
to all others: do not waste your time indulging this buffoon in conversation. let him declare you "kaafir," "munaafiq," and anything else his ultra-jihadi training has given him. sadly, people like him, in 10 years, probably won't remain a muslim...the heart can only take so much dogma before rejecting it. one can feel quite powerful saying things when the only thing staring you back in the face is a monitor and keyboard; you don't realize that your militancy has real consequences for real muslims.
notice his position: he is outrightly defending OBL. what a horrible and sick position to take! you are no better than the people who killed daniel pearl, who killed 3000 people in the WTC (including Muslims), who bombed embassies and countless other places, killing more Muslims than non-Muslims each time. if that is your position, if that is creed, good luck, take it to your Lord. if all you can do is respond to this post with pathetic namecalling, then you have shown your utility; you are a plague to this ummah. go read the history of the khawarijites, their fate and yours are the same.
"They have eyes but they do not see, ears and they do not hear because they are in a state of heedlessness."
Just remember, arrogance is the trick of satan and you, my friend, are arrogant. The worse thing you can ever do, if indeed you consider yourelf Muslim, is to always believe you are right. I pity your family who must deal with such a monster.
"I disagree with you with all my heart and soul but will fight to my death for your right to say it." - Voltaire
TUMS
I tried in vain not to stretch you to your boundaries, but now you leave me no choice.
I will now, for the benefit of all the true Muslims and subserviants to Allah and His Laws and not the followers of Bush and his laws, dethread your ideaology.
Firstly, as stated in my previous post you condone Bush for killing more than 3000, but condemn Osama for allegedly killing less than 3000? For you and your clan, accepting a non believer over a believer is common practice and the norm even if both are tarnished with the same crime.
Secondly, you call yourself American Muslims. This again confirms your flawed ideology as your Americanism comes out first. This is so inbred in your blood system that it automatically comes before your Faith.(if you have one that is). That is why you stated that you are an American first and then a Muslim and not just a Muslim! A Muslim is a Muslim regardless of where they originate from. Hard for you to comprehend, but it's the Truth.
Thirdly, you are so ashamed of the place of your forefathers so much that even considering a visit would be an abomination. You have forgotten your identity on one hand and are now at odds with your belief system.
Fourthly, your hypocrisy knows no bounds, but you still see nothing wrong with it. The Qur'aanic ayats I posted for you were on the ball and described people like you down to the Tee. But you still fail to accept and action.
Yes. for the likes of you I am very arrogant and give no apologies. Like I stated before, your are more dangerous than the actual non believers. Because at least non believers openly admit their way of life and do not have hidden agendas! But Islam will always be Islam and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Finally, the worst Muslim is the one who was born a Muslim, calls himself a Muslim but does not act like a Muslim.
YOU.
Salaam or should I say May the Lord Jesus Christ be with you!
sholay: if you have any guts, give us your proper name and address so I may notify the authorities. you are acting like God, may Allah have mercy on you. I pity you like a person would pity a crippled dog.
And all this nonsense comming from someone living in the hated West!
Cholay, is their any end to your hypocricy?
Answer this question whitout trying to dodge it. Why are you in the West, why not in Muslim lands if you hate the West so much?
One wants to report me to the authorities and the other questions my residence.
Your posts confirm what I have been saying all along. You are BBK's.
Is that the best you two can do.
TUMS
You can report me to any authority you want, as I unlike you, do not have anything to hide or fear except Allah just to keep my passport. You are a disgrace to the Muslim Ummah and are what we call a SELLOUT.
You, out of sheer desperation decided to start crying like a baby and have now nothing but cold air coming out. Idle threats. Instead of facing facts and the Truth you want to ensure your residency by trying to set up another Muslim. Feel free and be my guest. I'm actually quivering in my boots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Imdad
As far as your question is concerned. Only you can be so illiterate and stupid to make such comments. I did not state I hated the West, but stated that your country operates a quadruple foreign policy and your leader and idol Bush, apart from being the most intellectually backward leader in modern times is more of a threat to world stability and peace than anyone else. But you still choose to blindly follow him. I would never step foot in America and undergo the humiliation of being profiled, stereotyped, degraded and then set up.
I choose to travel the world and ponder over Allahs creation in line with the following Qur'aanic ayat:
62:9 O ye who believe! When the call is proclaimed to prayer on Friday (the Day of Assembly), hasten earnestly to the Remembrance of Allah, and leave off business (and traffic): That is best for you if ye but knew!
62:10 And when the Prayer is finished, then may ye disperse through the land, and seek of the Bounty of Allah. and celebrate the Praises of Allah often (and without stint): that ye may prosper.
Do you actually understand the above ayat. It means that I can go where I like!
The earth does not belong to you or your idiotic leader, even though he's trying his best to foolishly own.
Saala Baat Karta Hai
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You are BBK's.
You are a disgrace to the Muslim Ummah and are what we call a SELLOUT.
Only you can be so illiterate and stupid to make such comments.
Saala Baat Karta Hai
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MashaAllah :)
Cholay, you are obviously the greatest of the Taliban warriors and mujahideen. You even put your god Osama to shame with your flawless logic and Muslim traits.
I also see you are very frustrated and hysterical about Osama and gang. Is it because your side is loosing so badly and getting its butt handed to it? Do not worry young one, soon Osama and gang will be out of their misery, when a bomb lands on their head.
Your beloved Osama started this war when he killed 3,000 civilians in America, and he will pay for it, wither in this world or the hereafter. No question about it. Your fantasies and ranting will not change anything.
And why do you differentiate between America and the rest of the West? Are they not all kafirs in your book? Does not Osama and his gang hate all kafirs? Did not his operatives kill 200 Australians in Bali and try many times to terrorize England? Face it, no one likes Islamic radicals, not even the people in the West who are not religious. They tend not to like people who want to kill them or forcefully convert them to their version of Islam. If you think Osama is only fighting against Americans, you are dead wrong. Osama's gang is being cleaned up from Philippines to Germany. There is no escape for his kind. The world now knows how murderous these thugs are. And the world will not rest until each one of these terrorists is either rounded up or killed.
Your terrorists are beyond the civilized people who believe in not killing innocent civilians. They have crossed the line and chewed off more than they can swallow. Who would have thought that the Taliban would be dead before Sep 11? Well now it is, and the same fate waits any other terrorists and Islamic radicals.
Your time is up. Move back to your Khilafah, before the UK arrests you too. The UK and America are in this together for the long haul. They are one and the same. Same thing with rest of the West and despite the current disagreement over Iraq, they are in for the long haul. Iraq will be free and Europe and America will be allies once more. And they will join together to kick some Al Qaeda butt.
And I really love how you think associating me with America is an insult! Only to an ignorant mind would that be an insult. I consider it a compliment to be associated with the greatest country in the world. The same country that defeated fascism and communism and gave Arabs oil money, only to see the hypocrite Arabs turn against America.
May Allah bless America and peace loving people everywhere. :)
Imdad
Why am I not in the least surprised at your reply?
I'll leave you to work it out!
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Imdad
Why am I not in the least surprised at your reply?
I'll leave you to work it out!
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Thank you, I knew you would run away like the Taliban. :)
Imdad
Far from it.
I was merely bored with your patriotic, arrogant, illiterate, Jerry Springer style responses!
When I feel like picking on you again, I'll gladly break your ideology.
In the meantime Imdad Fleischer, pick up the Qur'aan and learn to read it with Tajweed. That way you can try and understand what Islam is all about.
Even Non Muslims like you can benefit from this!