Is it ok to have Mehndi?
The way we celebrate marriages, is it allowed in Islam?
Re: Mehndi
just before care ful we dont mix islam with tradition
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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *
Is it ok to have Mehndi?
The way we celebrate marriages, is it allowed in Islam?
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assalamoalikum 
check my thread on this topic it’ll save us all time to restart another pointless debate
BTW mehndi isn’t allowed in islam its an old customery indian tradition which has been practised for a long time. it bares no resemblance to islam
I do not think its only an Indian tradition. Maybe you got it b/c of India being soo near by however what about the other parts of the world. In Yemen we have Mehndi parties and put it on our hands for all sorts of reasons, and there are many more other countries. Now are you telling me that these countries took it from India also??
While Mehndi function may not be Islamic, but applying mehndi to your hair is considered :k:
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**BTW mehndi isn't allowed in islam...*
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Which Quranic quote prohibits putting mehndi?
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I do not think its only an Indian tradition. Maybe you got it b/c of India being soo near by however what about the other parts of the world. In Yemen we have Mehndi parties and put it on our hands for all sorts of reasons, and there are many more other countries. Now are you telling me that these countries took it from India also??
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majestic dude, i said indian tradition becauz as far as i know, all of these traditions u see in our eastern weddings according to my knowledge desend from india. i was talking about mehndi ki rasam as in the mehndi (henna) rasam in weddings i never said it was not to be applied to the hair or hands etc
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While Mehndi function may not be Islamic, but applying mehndi to your hair is considered
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correct fais' that's wat i'm talking about the rasam (function) being wrong not the application of mehndi to parts of the body, hair etc
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Which Quranic quote prohibits putting mehndi?
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again..., dudet mehndi ki rasam i was referring to........
thanx
^ ok which qur'anic quote prohibits mehndi ke rasam?
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*Originally posted by insolent mods': *
majestic dude, i said indian tradition becauz as far as i know, all of these traditions u see in our eastern weddings according to my knowledge desend from india. i was talking about mehndi ki rasam as in the mehndi (henna) rasam in weddings i never said it was not to be applied to the hair or hands etc
correct fais' that's wat i'm talking about the rasam (function) being wrong not the application of mehndi to parts of the body, hair etc
again..., dudet mehndi ki rasam i was referring to........
thanx
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why pakistanis explain islam in terms of indians?
There is nothing wrong with having a mehndi rasam. I dont think its something particular to the hindu religion or culture, but something practised across many cultures and doesn't seem like there is anything wrong with it :)
mehndi rasam my namesake isn't allowed in islam, check for quranic proof urself i don't have a english quran to post up stuff ok
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check for quranic proof **urself* i don't have a english quran to post up stuff ok
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Ok, Ammar, get to work now. Enough talking. :)
its not haram, where do you people get this stuff!?I think along with the partition in '47 there was a mental partition aswell where all things Indian became wrong.
Islamic Wedding, By Moulana M. Saleem Dhorat
The many customs as regards engagement are contrary to the Sunnah. In fact, many are against the Shariáh and are regarded sins. A verbal proposal and answer is sufficient.
To unnecessarily delay Nikah of both the boy and the girl after having reached the age of marriage is incorrect.
There is nothing wrong in inviting one’s close associates for the occasion of Nikah. However, no special pains should be taken in gathering the people from far off places.
It is appropriate that the bridegroom be a few years older than the bride.
If the father of the girl is an Áalim or pious and capable of performing Nikah, then he should himself solemnise the marriage.
It is better to give the Mahr Faatimi and one should endeavour to do so. But if one does not have the means then there is nothing wrong in giving less.
It is totally un-Islamic for those, who do not possess the means, to incur debts in order to have grandiose weddings.
It is fallacy to think that one’s respect will be lost if one does not hold an extravagant wedding and invite many people. What is our respect compared to that of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam)?
The present day practice of the intermingling of sexes is an act of sin and totally against Shariáh.
There is nothing such as engagement parties and Mehndhi parties in Islam.
Great care must be taken as regards to Salaat on occasions of marriage by all - the bride, the bridegroom and all the participants.
It is un-Islamic to display the bride on stage.
The unnecessary expenses incurred by the bride’s family in holding a feast has no basis in Shariáh.
For the engaged couple to meet at a public gathering where the boy holds the girl’s hand and slips a ring on her finger is a violation of the Qurãnic law of Hijaab.
It is un-Islamic for the engaged couple to meet each other and also go out together.
Three things should be borne in mind when giving one’s daughter gifts and presents at the time of Nikah:
· Presents should be given within one’s means (it is not permissible to take loans, on interest for such presents);
· To give necessary items;
· A show should not be made of whatever is given.
It is Sunnat for the bridegroom’s family to make Walimah.
Note: In Walimah, whatever is easily available should be fed to the people and care should be taken that the is no extravagance, show and that no debts are incurred in the process.
18. To delay Nikah after the engagement is un-Islamic.
SOME CUSTOMS
In aping Western methods sheepishly, Muslims have adopted many customs which are un-Islamic and frowned upon.
Some examples are:
Displaying the bride on stage;
Inviting guests for the wedding from far off places;
Receiving guests in the hall;
The bride’s people incurring unnecessary expenses by holding a feast which has no basis in Shariáh. We should remember that Walimah is the feast arranged by the bridegroom after the marriage is consummated.
It is contrary to Sunnah (and the practice of some non-Muslim tribes in India) to wish, hope for or demand presents and gifts for the bridegroom, from the bride’s people. We should always remember that our Nabi (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) did not give Áli (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) anything except Duá.
“**PUNJABI HINDU WEDDINGS”
CHUNNI CHARHANA AND ENGAGEMENT **
The boy’s sister or bhabhi traditionally presents the bride to be a red chunni or a red sari. The girl dresses in the clothes brought by the groom’s family. Her mother-in law to be feeds her ‘shagun’ of boiled rice and milk, gives her gifts and **adorns her with jewellery. The couple now exchange rings and are formally engaged. All the boy’s relatives give the girl gifts or money. **
**SANGEET **
The families of both the boy and the girl hold lively functions, filled with music and dance. They invite each other’s family members and friends to celebrate the happy occasion. Everyone joins in the fun, from the oldest gray haired grandparent to the youngest member of the family. **The verses range from the love ballads of Waris Shah , to the travails of the bahu in her sasural, to the slightly bawdy lyrics with impossible to translate naughty puns and innuendoes. Ladies sit around a dance floor, play the ‘dholki’ and sing wedding folk songs while everyone dances to the irresistible beat, with both sides trying to outdo each other. **
**THE WEDDING
CHURHA **
This ceremony is performed on the morning of the wedding. The bride’s maternal uncle (Mama) has a pivotal role in this ceremony. The churha ceremony begins with a havan. The churha is a set of cream and red ivory bangles, which the brides maternal uncle and his wife put on her wrists. The girl is not allowed to see her churha until after the ceremony. After the puja everybody present touches the churha, in a manner of offering their blessings. A mauli, a gana of small shells, an iron ring and an iron bangle are also put on her by the pandit as a good omen.
After the ceremony, everybody showers flower petals on the girl as a blessing. Prasad, usually suji ka halwa, is distributed to all present. All present tie ‘kaliras’, light ornaments of beaten silver and gold to the iron bangle. The bride then hit hers unmarried friends and sisters on the head with her kaliras. The lucky one in whose hair a kalira breaks off is believed to be the next to get married. The eldest mama and mami (or those performing this ceremony) keep a fast. Often, the girl’s parents also keep a fast for the day.
**MEHNDI CEREMONY **
On the wedding day, the bride has intricately patterned mehandi on her hands and feet Traditionally, mehandi was applied to the girl only after chuda ceremony on the day of the wedding. **Nowadays, however, the mehandi ceremony is held a day prior to the wedding. This ceremony is accompanied by singing, dancing and rejoicing by relatives and friends. **
The boy’s family sends a ‘Kwar dhoti’ to the girl’s house on the wedding day. Mehandi is a part of this gift. It includes a sari for the girl or a shawl, a white dhoti, which is to be given to the pandit, makhaanas, almonds, dried dates, misri, mithai, bindis, oil and cosmetics. Traditionally a girl cannot wear a chuda till she has received the kwar dhoti from her prospective in-laws and she must use the mehandi sent to her for the ceremony.
Mehendi is very much Islamic. In Arabic it is called Henna.
There are some riwayat where Prophet asked The men(women??) to apply it in the hair.
You can find similar decorations in the hands of Arabs Bride especially the Egyptians and Northern African.
Mehndi as such has no hindu background. It has been practised by arab nations too to the best of my knowledge. Regarding singing. IT IS ALLOWED if it isn't a mixed gathering. Haven't you read the hadiths (sorry for not quoting the exact words) where the Prophet asks Aisha radi allahu anha whether she sent someone to sing or play the duff (i'm not sure which) as the ansar are a people which love poetry? Weddings are joyous occasions and even the duff is permitted for weddings. The above two articles just keep on making statements after statements while providing no proof at all for their assertions.
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It is appropriate that the bridegroom be a few years older than the bride.
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Wasn't the Prophet sallalahu aleyhe wasallam younger than Khadija radi allahu anha?? Marriages work in all sorts of age combinations as is evident from the example of our Prophet. This is nothing more than this guy's opinion.
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There is nothing such as engagement parties and Mehndhi parties in Islam.
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Agreed. Muslims should have a simple nikah and a valima to the best of their abilities, however there is absolutely nothing wrong in a simple mehndi if it isn't a mixed gathering.
FAQs on marriage in Islam
Answers by Imam Yusuf Ziya Kavakci
What are the very basics of a Muslim marriage?
The very basics of a Muslim marriage are the following:
a. Nikah is a contract (Aqd) between a man and woman who are not prohibited to marry each other.
b. Consent: Bride and groom expressing their will to marry each other in public. Consent must be expressed in understandable way.
c. Wittnesses: There must be at least two Muslims wittnesses present in the couple’s declaration of marrying each other.
c. Mahr Gift: This is a gift given by the groom to the bride either at the wedding.
Mahr can be gold, silver, money, land, a car, an apartment, a house which will be given by the would-be-husband to his would-be-wife. Mahr is the property or the wealth of the bride. The bride owns the Mahr. She will dispose of it as she wishes.
Who is a Wali in marriage and what do they do?
Wali in English means guardian or custodian. A woman’s Wali in marriage is a person responsible for that sister. If there is none available, then the Wali is the Imam.
Although Hanafi school of Islamic law does not make wali’s consent a condition of marriage, some of the other Madhabs (schools of thought) say if there is no Wali, then a sister cannot marry. But there are also minority views that say it is okay if the sister directly gives her consent without a Wali. In other words, if there is no Wali the marriage is okay. This is mainly a saving point which brings easiness to sisters who have converted to Islam or those whose families don’t accept whom they want to marry. It is also for those where suitable Imams are not present.
What is a Walima?
Walima is Sunnah. This is a feast given after the marriage by the couple, which the husband pays for. Walima is a party of joy for the celebration of the newly formed family and for announcing that this couple are now husband and wife.
During the celebration, relatives and friends of both the husband and the wife, as well as community members are invited to get acquainted with each other, to enjoy food and to relax and begin a nice relationship through the marriage.
Where should the marriage ceremony be held?
Islamically, no space is fixed for Nikah, for contract, for wedding, or for the party. Any decent, Islamically acceptable place, house, home is fine.
If the Nikah is held in a Masjid, the prayer hall cannot be used for an elaborate wedding party because that is dedicated for Salah and Ibadah in the strict sense.
But the part that is not dedicated to that, like meeting places and classrooms can be used for the reception. Of course this is part of the bigger picture of what is the definition of Masjid.
Is it Haram (forbidden) to have Mehndi/henna party?
I cannot say it is Haram because Haram is something that needs to be based on Nass (evidence expressed clearly in the Quran or Sunnah). I would say it is cultural, it is okay.
As long as it fits in general restrictions, observes Islamic rules and regulations in general terms, I would say it is okay for sisters to have a celebration to prepare the bride for this big responsibility she is getting ready for. Henna is allowed.
there u have it mr . different has proven it so my name sake including all those who thought mehndi ki rasam in weddings was allowed have been proven wrong, see ppl i am not wrong at all its just ur minds which doesn’t let u believe a word i utter.
- uf yaar y can’t u get it into ur skull that it isn’t allowed still ur going on about it, the facts are there on the table, accept them and move on instead of bikering about them and stating this and that.*