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*Originally posted by ammarr: *
....however there is absolutely nothing wrong in a simple mehndi if it isn't a mixed gathering.
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and precisely how many "mehndi" parties have you seen with no "mixed" gatherings?
^ None!
insolent mods i clearly pointed out that whatever he said was without proof. ITS SIMPLE. IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT FORTH YOUR VIEWS, BE SURE TO PROVE THEM!! GOT THAT IN YOUR SKULL ???????????
changez_mind, i've seen very few.... only 2 in my lifetime i think (well technically haven't seen them cuz i wasn't allowed :D) but yes it is something that has taken on a bad angle.. but then again how many weddings have we seen which aren't mixed??? i think that number would be fairly low as well.
Let’s be a little more clear on the “Mehndi”, there are a few who are confusing Mehndi = Henna with Mehndi = the Mehndi rasam. Those of you who talk about Arabs and other people using Mehndi = Henna, the “Mehndi” that is being discussed here is the Mehndi = the Mehndi Rasam, which is practiced by the Muslims of the subcontinent along with other events in a wedding.
What happens in this Mehndi ki rasm is exactly a combination of two events that happen in typical Hindu weddings and those events are known as Sangeet and Mehndi.
The Hadith that “allows singing” that Ammarr is referring to is this:
And you also want to justify all that you do with a Hadith which clearly mentions this:
Volume 2, Book 15, Number 70:
Narrated Aisha:
**Allah’s Apostle (p.b.u.h) came to my house while two girls were singing beside me the songs of Buath (a story about the war between the two tribes of the Ansar, the Khazraj and the Aus, before Islam). The Prophet (p.b.u.h) lay down and turned his face to the other side. Then Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly saying, “Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ?” Allah’s Apostle (p.b.u.h) turned his face towards him and said, “Leave them.” **
The singing of the songs that are sung in the “Mehndi ki rasam” cannot be compared with the singing mentioned in this Hadith!
And Ammarr if you had cared to click on the Source link in my posts you could get some proof there, anyways here is something I did not post earlier…
Islamic Wedding, By Moulana M. Saleem Dhorat
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Wedding of Fatimah (RadhiAllah Anha)
Fatimah (Radhiallaahu Ánha) is the youngest daughter of our beloved Prophet (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam). Out of all the children, he was the most beloved to him. He said, ‘The Queen of the ladies in Jannat is Faatimah.’ He also said, ‘Faatimah is part of my body. Whoever grieves her, grieves me.’
When Faatimah (Radhiallaahu Ánha) reached the age of fifteen, proposals for her marriage began to come from high and responsible families. But the Prophet (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) remained irresponsive.
Ali (Radhiallaahu Ánhu), who was 21 at the time, says: *It occurred to me that I should go and make a formal proposal, but then I thought, ‘How could this be accomplished, for I possess nothing.’ At last, encouraged by the Prophet’s kindness, I went to him and expressed my intention to marry Faatima (Radhiyallaahu Anha). The Prophet (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) was extremely pleased and asked, ‘Áli! Do you possess anything to give her in Mahr?’ I replied, ‘Apart from a horse and an armour I possess nothing.’
The Prophet (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, ‘A soldier must, of course, have his horse. Go and sell away your armour.’*
So, Áli (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) went and sold his armour to Uthmaan (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) for 480 Dirham and presented it to Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam). Bilaal (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) was ordered by the Prophet (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) to bring some perfume and a few other things and Anas (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) was sent to call Abu Bakr, Uthmaan, Talhah, Zubayr with some companions from the Ansaar (Radhiallaahu Ánhum).
When these men arrived and had taken their seats, the Prophet (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) recited the Khutbah (sermon) of Nikaah and gave Faatimah (Radhiallaahu Ánha) in marriage to Áli (Radhiallaahu Ánhu). *He announced, ‘Bear you all witness that I have given my daughter Faatimah in marriage to Áli for 400 Mithqaal of silver and Áli has accepted.’ He then raised his head and made Duá saying, ‘O Allah, create love and harmony between these two. Bless them and bestow upon them good children.’ after the Nikaah, dates were distributed.
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When the time came for Faatimah (Radhiallaahu Ánha) to go to Áli’s (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) house, she was sent without any clamour, hue and cry accompanied Umm Ayman (Radhiallaahu Ánhu). After the Éesha Salaat, the Prophet (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) went to their house, took permission and entered. He asked for a basin of water, put his blessed hands into it and sprinkled it on both Áli (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) and Faatimah (Radhiallaahu Ánha) and made Duá for them.
The sovereign of both worlds gave his beloved daughter a silver bracelet, two Yemeni sheets, four mattresses, one blanket, one pillow, one cup, one hand-grinding mill, one bedstead, a small water skin and a leather pitcher.
In this simple fashion, the wedding of the daughter of the leader of the worlds was solemnised. In following this Sunnah method, a wedding becomes very simple and easy to fulfill.**
arab practise of celebrating virginity of the bride after first night
by showing of the blood stained cloth practised in pakistan?
as-salaamu alykum different,
i was actually not justifying the indian type of "mehndi rasam" this rasam is actually borrowed from the hindu culture and contains a lot of things which aren't allowed. and no i wasn't comparing the singing. I just meant to point out that daff on weddings is allowed, and singing of women amongst other women is allowed wallahu alim.
Just like Hindus going round temple, the Muslims have to ambulate 7 times
around the kabah. No blood shed is permitted within the kabah precincts
which is also in accordance with Hinduism. Then there is the shaving of the
head. These similarities are too striking to be dismissed as coincidences.
Even the garb the Muslims wear when in Mecca resembles that worn by Hindu
temple priests and worshippers
