Stupid idiot only confirmed her nickname. And it is ok, if you can’t understand what I wrote, not everyone is all capable.
Vishnu did create you and you will come back as a piglet in your next life. 
Stupid’s post didn;t warrant a reply but since you were pestering me with the multiple pm’s I thought I might help you put your mind at ease and help unbunch them.
Re: Meat
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*Originally posted by Razea: *
Salaam I was wondering, when we cut an animals throat, we cut it's jugular vein right? How much more pain does the animal feel, is instead, we cut it the way non muslim butchers cut the animal?
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According to one of the 'The Muslim Weekley' newspaper, in Inglistan(end of May 2004 edition), it was reported according to some science body, that the Islamic way of sacrificing the animal is alot less painful compare to the non-muslim methods.
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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: * Vishnu didnt create me Im afraid.Besides I thought you guys created him/it.:o
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You have a point baji.
Confirmed her nickname by proving herself capable of making sense? Well since you cant seem to answer her post- you think picking on her nick will help.Alright.
Vishnu didnt create me.I doubt something other people invented- is capable of creating me.A piglet in my next life? I’ll leave that up to you…you seem rather eager na.
Stupid idiots post was such that you didnt have a reply to it-not that it didnt warrant a reply.
And by answering you proved my point.You want other people to actually give some thought to what you’re saying (and even admit you have a point)- but cant possibly do the same to what others say.
MQ all hersuppostions are answered. There is no categorical fact based argument presented by him or another. As I mentioedn to Saddzz, if you believe as faith not fact that it is humane to slit an animals throat then fine. I have as much right to refute that faith based argument.
As far as Vishnu is concerned, I will pray that he tells allah or hanuman to remove that doubt.
Stupid idiots post were general ramblings. Kind of like your 5 pm’s. 
As far as my proving your point…if you feel that I made your day. Hurrah!! I am always charitable to people of other faiths. 
Yeah my pm started with saying you ran away.You brought in the peanut factory.Well sure you have a right to voice your opinion.But it doesnt make any sense to pick on somebodys nick.And bring in Vishnu and Piglets.
Charitable? Right.You dont understand other faiths much- being charitable is another story.:o Well if you think that there was no ‘categorical fact based argument presented by stupid idiot’ - maybe its you whos lacking something- maybe you just didnt understand him/her.
You made my day alright.There are people out there who just dont understand some things.I guess its not their fault.sigh.
ohfo I think I ruined the poor thread by arguing with mr matsui here.sorry folks.
You have no idea what I understand or what I don’t. I understand that your feeble thought process equates not answering every single post as a sign of abdication of a particular position.
The only thing I am lacking is a new pair of brown Hogan sneakers, which I will buy in Soho today. Other than that…I am all knowing like GOD. If fact I am GOD. And that is the fact. 
My feeble thought process definitely figured something out.Cant be that feeble, Im sure.And matsui you have to learn to deal with the topic being discussed -but not your fault you cant help calling people names.
And dream on buddy.Do let us know about your next life.And buzzwords shouldnt be thrown around unless you know their full implications.
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Oh! please dont tell you are here just becasue s’one else asked you to come. My friend if you feel you want to debate then do, if you dont you have no compulstion my friend.
What do you want me to do, take it as a complement?
Since you pick only one poit out of the ‘rest of my meidcal thesis’[in your words] let us then deal with it first.
If my friend had read my thread carefully [and not angrly] he should have realised it says “The purpose is to drain out most of the blood which would serve as a good culture medium for micro organisms.” It also says This [the proper drain out] also results in Meat remaing fresh for a longer time due to deficiency of blood in the meat as compared to other methods of slaughtering. Now once the drain out takes place the meat more life, other wise it will rotten earlier. I agree with my brother that marrow, tissues and various other factors do play role in germs germination that is why even though the blood is out the meet rottens.
Point which I made was
As by slaughtering in the other way you leave the blood components and that is less hygenic.
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As far as the rest of your medical thesis on pain in animals, it is amateurish at best.[/qute] In one of the earlier post of yours you taunt at one of my Mulism btoher and said
You have your personal view point which might be depandant on your faith doesnt meant it is a fact.
**QUOTE A SINGLE PLACE WHERE I SAID ANIMALS DONT FEEL PAIN AND MY RELIGION TELLS ME THAT. I ASK YOU NOT FOR MORE BUT FOR ONE SINGLE PLACE **
Amongs the many other things which my religoin has better than yours is that my religion tells me not to say anything [which may offend the follower or believers] to any other religion. So though you said with rage that my religion is wrong, all I say is that my religion is the only perfect religion which exists.
And btw, our friend has not told us yet which religion does he belongs to. Well which ever religion you practise my friend what does your religion teaches you. Does it tells you that the animals feel like the humans do? If so then why you kill them to fullfull the appitite of yours. I mean how would you feel if another creature wuold kill your son/brother/sister to consume you?
Beautiful point my brother raised here. I would love to disscuss this in detail.
Chop of heads Of those who kill another human. Now you tell me my brother suppose your father or your son or your wife is being murdered what will you do with the murderer?
Stonn to death to those who indulge in adultury and rape.
Would my brother mind telling me. If [God forbid] You wife sleeps with your neither what would my brother do to the neighbour. And if your sister/mother/daugher [God Forbid] is rapped what will you do with the person who did it?
At least you answered one question. Thanks for that.
My brother we dont believe in the ‘many lifes’. We just have one. But I was astonished to know that you based all your debates just on the flashbackes which you have.
A brother has already answered this question please read all posts. Dont repeat what has been answered.
Which book did the brother used to find this fact. I would still like to suggest “do google better”
Blood is haram for Mulisms we cant consume it. Secondly please dont ASMUME things in debate. Facts would be more wellcomed, if you find any [do google better].
Amazing way of thinking you have. Suppose my nick would have been ‘smartest the world has ever seen’ would you then believed me.
Point number two: Even the Supid and Idiot Muslims bring up facts and some other wise people dont base thier arguments on facts. That is really funny. And requested you earlier <<Dont you ever say it doesnt make sense, unless you bring the thing which is senseless.>>
As from my previous post a lot question my brother missed I would restate in bold so this time his eyes catch them:
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your quote:Saddzz it is not out of my comprehension, the argument that is being madeis not being prefaced as faith but as fact.
QUESTION: how many facts did you used to base your opinion on. Before this post of yours just point one single fact which you have mentioned. one single fact thats alll I ask for.
QUESTION: I ask you, are you not making fool of your self when you say you are talking about facts without even even a single fact.
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your quote:…now that ravage has gone above and beyond to prove something from a jewish site.
QUESTION: Why dont they acknowledge what you belive is right.
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your quote:That is what I said Saddzz, according to faith (not fact) people can believe that animals are looking forward to getting their throats slashed or whatever but that is faith…it is not a universal law.
QUESTION: Who told you we believe that the animals look forward to get slaughtered.
Phew! I almost had to re-wrote the whold previous post of mine.
One single fact is that is there is nothing wrong with non-halaal meat. If it was any less safe, then 5/6th of humanity would be dying of disease or full of germs. people in Japan live the healthiest lives, longest lives, they eat all kinds of meat. It doesn;t have anything to do with healthier. Slitting throats is an anachronistic practice. COmbine it with stunning the beast before slitting the throat.
You keep contending that I am angry. Hardly my little stupid idiot. 
It is just that I don;t believe everything I read and use comon sense to decide upon a point. Try it…God gave you that too..read up on it.
Base your claims on facts, if you think it is 'poor attempt then base it on s’thing otherwise let others handle it.
Do you think s’one is telling things just be acknowledged by a human.
I like the way you try to run away from things. Well my friend I’d just say it was you who chose now to answer **seven.b] questions asked by me which I had to retype.
Had you been lesser supid than I’m or even lesser idiot, you might not have done it. However, I give you more chances. As many as you like. That will decide who is understanding things and who is not. And remember I say ‘as many chances as you would like to have’
Why are you not a goat in this life as you claimed you were in your previous’s?
May be becuase you find find answer to the most of the questions asked. Nice way of proving yourself right, my friend.
You ignored most of the questions asked and they say ‘ignorance can be bliss’. Who is looking for a peace of mind? And what has he/she selected to find that peace?
Point 1: Total less Seven, is that what you call “all”
Point 2: You said yourself s’thing about facts, which in your replies are missing. Simple hypothetical statements dont mean anything. Here is a suggestion [do google better]
QUESTION:: Please quote what is not a fact?
Question:: How many facts have you brought so far?
Research dont by nonmuslims was what we bruoght. Now please:
QUESTION:: Can you bring a fact and not your faith based reasoning that this way is more “inhuman” way than what you are adovocating.
I wanted to finish the first topic first. But since you are overdoing it I’ve to deal with this as well.
Vishnu If I’m not wrong. Vishnu among Hindus, is that of a God who has four arms, with one of the right arms holding the Chakra, i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holding a ‘conch shell’, or riding a bird or reclining on a snake couch. And if you put the word Vixhnu in the Google [and even if you dont do google better] You would find alot of picture of Vishnu.
Upanishads The Upanishads are considered sacred scriptures by the Hindus,
Upanishads says about God:
1- “Ekam evadvitiyam”
“He is One only without a second.”
QUESTION:: How many Vishnus do you
[Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]
have in India alone.
2- “Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah.”
“Of Him there are neither parents nor lord.”
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]
3- “Na tasya pratima asti”
“There is no likeness of Him.”
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]
QUESTION: How many of the Vishnus are not like each other.
The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form:
4- “Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam.”
“His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye.”
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]
QUESTION: If Vishnu is not to be seen then how can we see it.
THE VEDASVedas are considered the most sacred of all the Hindu scriptures. There are four principal Vedas: Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samveda and Atharvaveda.
5- "na tasya pratima asti
“There is no image of Him.”
[Yajurveda 32:3]
QUESTION: Why does google shows alot of them and how come Vishnu can also be seen in hindi movies.
6- “shudhama poapvidham”
“He is bodyless and pure.”
[Yajurveda 40:8]
QUESTION: Why does Vishnu has a body then
7- “Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste”
“They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements” (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). “They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti.”
[Yajurveda 40:9]
Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.
QUESTION:: Isnt Vishnu created by human hands.
QUESTION: Want more on that I do not hesitate. Please make sure you answer the questions this time.
Yout talked about facts We provided them, you doubt our faith without questions. But we have a reason to challenge your faith.
The best part of the virtual world is that you never know the "stupid " on the other side of computer might have been have been one like you before, so becareful.
QUESTION:: So is that all right in your religion?
Diseases not always mean death. And please bring some ‘research/farct’ to support your argument that the meat non-hallal is more hygenic.
Please state the average age of Janpnese?
The scale on which you measured thier health?
The kinds of meat they eat?
: ) And ‘did’ the common sense tell you that ‘non-hallal’ way is less painful.?
** Please answer the questions asked, i f you want me to I can retype them for you if you want. **
Call him Vishnu, Saraswati, Allah, Hanuman, Yahweh, whatever you want, energy..you name it. It is all the same. God can have four hands, he can have 19 heads, he can have no head, he can be in movies, he can be in books he can be in my pants. ....if god is all knowing, all being...why the hell cannot have four hands? that is called faith...it is not a fact. Just as attesting that slitting a throat of an animal is better than how the rest of the world does it.is faith not fact. That is what I said to Saddzz and that is what I am telling you chanda. Now if you need it written in arabic, I can't help you.
Having a name as Vishnu doesn;t mean that the person named Vishnu is God. Hindus have common sense enough to discern that. It is a way of revering God.
All Vishnus are not like each other..hope that helps
There is an image of him because it is how humans picture him based on that version of God. Four hands, sometimes are even more hands..that means that God is multitaking and can multitask. . Common sense would dictate that the reference to image in that shloka means that you can;t see him. It doesnt say yu can;t imagine him. This is an god's gift... Imagination. I know..I know..it is a hard concept for you to use the ole noggin considering you are still stuck in the 7th century.
Making pictures and idols is not making God. Again, COmmon sense... whoa... They ar ea conduit to God.
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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *Charitable? Right.You dont understand other faiths much- being charitable is another story.:o Well if you think that there was no 'categorical fact based argument presented by stupid idiot' - maybe its you whos lacking something- maybe you just didnt understand him/her.:p
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You tell him baji.
Tawba, Tawba, Tawba Astaghfar.
Did your God make you a partner with him?
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*Originally posted by Stupid Idiot: * Why are you not a goat in this life as you claimed you were in your previous's?
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Tell us Matsui... do you get to choose whether you become a human in one life and a monkey in the next?
How many lives by the way you have?
It probably isn't wrong to kill Vishnu followers since they keep coming back to life?
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*Matsui: *
Call him Vishnu, Saraswati, Allah, Hanuman, Yahweh, whatever you want, energy..you name it. It is all the same. God can have four hands, he can have 19 heads, he can have no head, he can be in movies, he can be in books he can be in my pants. ....if god is all knowing, all being...why the hell cannot have four hands? that is called faith...it is not a fact.
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Can you deal with the asked qestions individually.
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**Matsui: **Just as attesting that slitting a throat of an animal is better than how the rest of the world does it.is faith not fact. That is what I said to Saddzz and that is what I am telling you chanda. Now if you need it written in arabic, I can't help you.
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You aslo told saddzz that debates should be based on facts. I just ask you to show me the fact upon which you base your decision, that is all. What is wrong chanda? Why cant you find the fact? Cant chandaa do google any better?
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*Matsui: *
Having a name as Vishnu doesn;t mean that the person named Vishnu is God. Hindus have common sense enough to discern that. It is a way of revering God.
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Why cant you answer the questions differently chanda? YOu dont need to tell me what the Hidus think/do/say. I think you didnt read in my previous post "The best part of the virtual world is that you never know the "stupid " on the other side of computer might have been have been one like you[worshiping Vishus] before, so becareful. "
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*Matsui: *
All Vishnus are not like each other..hope that helps
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So shall we reffer to the books for that?
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*Matsui: *
There is an image of him because it is how humans picture him based on that version of God. Four hands, sometimes are even more hands..that means that God is multitaking and can multitask. .
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The books you read say he cant be imagined. How do you imagine and appoint four hands for multitasking?
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*Matsui: *
Common sense would dictate that the reference to image in that shloka means that you can;t see him. It doesnt say yu can;t imagine him. This is an god's gift... Imagination. I know..I know..it is a hard concept for you to use the ole noggin considering you are still stuck in the 7th century.
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: ). Am I stuck or chanda is?
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*Matsui: *
Making pictures and idols is not making God. Again, COmmon sense... whoa... They ar ea conduit to God.
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Good common sense, [Yajurveda 32:3] says s'thing else.
Chanda, read closely. And do google better.