Meaning of this verse

Arts & Culture Poetry ( Intikhaab & Sho'ra-e-Gupshup)
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         Mohammad Bhi tira, Jibril bhi, Quran bhi Teera

Magar Ye harf-e-ShireeN turjumaan teera hai Ya meera

Isi kokab ki tabaani sey hai teera jahaaN roshan
Zawaal aadam-e-khaki ZiyaaN teera hai ya meera

It is the bolded verse that i don’t understand.
What does Iqbal mean by Harf-e-shireen here?http://www.paklinks.com/gs/imagehosting/2478946e5119834608.bmp

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aha...this is AQ's forte....Iqbal that is. Its beyond me but just reading the words is a beauty in itself.

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I guess.. it refers k Quran n Mohammad n Jibril to Allah ne bhejay na.. magar jo Quran ke tarjumay huay itni zabanonmain jinhon ne isay sehel kernay main buhat ehemkirdaar ada keay.. poet is asking Allah k Allah ki zaat in tafseer ko kis ke account main likhay gi?? Allah ke ya un logon k jinhon ne tarjuma kia..

thats what i guess.. agau to AQ batayen ge.. :)

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Certainly AQ is better placed to explain this. But as I see it, it looks like Iqbal, by saying that Mohammad, Jbril and Quran, is yours, meant to say that everything in the universe belongs to you, but the question is, whom this fantastic package actually belongs to? One who is a true believer or the one who is only a casual representative of Islam?

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^^ I only so commented cos AQ is a big fan of Iqbal :)

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Iqbal ki Iqbal He Jaanay Hum To Bas Andazay Laga Saktay Hain !

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I rest my case... redidentity and Amal have explained it much better :)

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Iqbal bhee Iqbal saY aagah naheeN hai
kuch tamaskhur naheeN iss maiN wallah naheeN hai :)

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shair kehne wala shair k maqsad o matlab se aagaah na ho aaisa ho nahi sakta !
jaisa aap ne kaha us pe roshni daaliye ~

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bhail... Iqbal kaa apnaa sher hai... abb maiN kiyaa bolooN : P

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iss main ghour talab cheez sirf harf-e-shireen hai. agar ye pata chal jai kay iss ki zameer kis taraf hai to hal ho sakta hai.

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Mohammad Bhi tira, Jibril bhi, Quran bhi Teera
Magar Ye harf-e-ShireeN turjumaan teera hai Ya meera

Allah, Mohammad is yours
So is Jibral, so is Quran
All yours

But the interpreter
Of sweet words,
Is mine or yours?

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Oh please.... For God sake...!
do not butcher Iqbal's poetry when you have no idea what it means.

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Originally Posted by Omar Faraz http://www.paklinks.com/gs/images/buttons/viewpost.gif

Mohammad Bhi tira, Jibril bhi, Quran bhi Teera
Magar Ye harf-e-ShireeN turjumaan teera hai Ya meera

Mohammad (pbuh) tera hai
Jibril tera hai
Quran bhi tera hai

Magar ye meethay
Harfon ka turjurmaan
Mera hai ya tera hai

Note: Turjumaan=Interpreter, Translator

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^
first of all.. Iqbal's verse made more logical sense and more poetical ... your is only bunch of words....

secondly, Tarjumaan does not mean Tarjumaa... Please. Thank you!

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Third shair is so beautiful, but is Iqbal really questioning the truth behind Inkaar-e-iblees?

That does not reflect a whole lot of submission as a true muslim

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Mohammad Bhi tira, Jibril bhi, Quran bhi Teera
Magar Ye harf-e-ShireeN turjumaan teera hai Ya meera

**Mohammad (pbuh) tera hai
Jibril tera hai
tay Quran vi tera hai

par jehra mithiaan harfaan
da matlab dassay,
o mera hai ya tera hai?

Note:

aqal aapni aapni, shakal aapni aapni
mohabbat aapni, nafrat aapni aapni

logaan nu phir ansi kee kaheeyay
maththa una naal kyon maareeyay/b}

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Beautiful:k:

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Omar Faraz or rkopra whoever you are... It is said ignorance is a bliss but it remains a blessing until you realize it.

You seem so keen to translate anything that is posted here even if it is not understood... It relays the wrong understanding of the piece of the poetry and can be a total injustice with the contents...

And if you think that Tarjumaan really means Translator, and are not willing to accept that you had no idea what it is, then be my guest and translate the following for me and also explain what Iqbal is saying in following simple verses:

Urooj-e-Aadam-e-Khaaki saY Anjum sehmaY jaataY haiN
kaY kaheeN yeh tooTa huaa taaraa mah-e-Kaamil na bun jaaye

and

Andaaz-e-bayaaN garchaY bahut shokh naheeN hai
Shaayad kaY utar jaaye teraY dil maiN meri baat

Yaa GuNbad-e-aflaak maiN takbeer-e-musalsal
Yaa Khak ke aaghosh maiN tasbeeh-O-munaajaat

Woh mazhab-e-Mardaan-e-Khud aagah-O-Khudaa mast
Yeh Mazhab-e-Mullah-O-Jamaadaat-O-Nabaataat

Thanks!

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**someone is now obsessed with rkopra
jidhar bhi dekhta hai, dekhta hai rkopra

tum jo bho ho jahan bhi ho rkopra
kisi ko pagal kiyay huay ho rkopra**