Can any one remind me of matches in which Inzaman ul Haq acted as a match winner. Especially batting second. Where he (It is prefered that you could give a URL to the score card)build the innings and was the architect of a Pakistani victory.
Yes Match Winning Innings of Inzamam ?
Example like the ones that were played by Lara againt Aust, when they last visited WI.
I have a feeling that Inzi is a good batsman, maybe a great bastsman but he has not be a match winner for pakistan?
arayy!!!
how can u forget the innings of inzi against the newzealand(kiwis) in the semi-final of world cup 1992…
he scored a master knock over there…
ummm… but no score-cards:confused:
yes.. he has some really good scores while chasing a target....
the ones i can remember right now.
-->WC semifinal in 1992.
-->Triganluar series in WI in 2000, low scoring match, he held the innings together
-->Tranigular series in SA in 1998. Match v/s Sl at benoni, Pakistan had to make 298 ti win the match and inzi scored a century there.
--> Sharjah 2001, he scored an unbeaten century while chasing a target of 275
Re: Match Winning Innings of Inzi ?
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Can any one remind me of matches in which Inzaman ul Haq acted as a match winner. Especially batting second. Where he (It is prefered that you could give a URL to the score card)build* the innings and was the architect of a Pakistani victory.
Yes Match Winning Innings of Inzamam ?
Example like the ones that were played by Lara againt Aust, when they last visited WI.
I have a feeling that Inzi is a good batsman, maybe a great bastsman but he has not be a match winner for pakistan?
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But don't forget, in some matches he is very helpful to the pakistani team when has made over hundred and not having a good partnership because of the extreme balling agianst Australia last year.
Paindoo bhai, I don't know who gave you the idea of Inzi not being a matchwinner, he has won Pakistan quite few matches specially batting second.
The first one comes to mind is WC 92 semi final against NZ, at one point Pakistan were in a tough situation at 140/4 with run rate extremely slow then came Inzi and joined Miandad to win the match, he scored 60 off 48 balls and then later fireworks by Moin Khan to win Pakistan the match in the last over.
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then came Inzi and joined Miandad to win the match, he[Inzi] scored **60 off 48 balls*
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A little correction, Umair.
Inzi did score 60 on 37 balls, not 48.
I've World Cup 92 Highlights recorded! :D
Paindoo uncle Inzi started playing match winning innings for Pakistan even when commentrators cant call his name.
They were like "inzi mmamaa ool haq" is on fire.....
Wants the right from 1st day ? :)
Test # 1268 (1268/35)
Pakistan v Australia, 1994/95, 1st Test
National Stadium, Karachi
28,29,30 September, 1,2 October 1994 (5-day match)
Result: Pakistan won by 1 wicket
Pakistan leads the 3-Test series 1-0
But Pakistans man-of-the-moment was Inzamam Ul Haq, who came ins highest Test score, and his stand of 58
at No. 8 to thump 58 not out and share half-century partnerships
with an ill Rashid Latif (35) for the eighth wicket and Mushtaq
Ahmed (20 not out) for the 10th wicket that won the match for his
country. It was Mushtaq
with Inzamam was the largest ever last-wicket partnership to win
a Test match, reflecting their cool as cricketers, but also the
unchanging blandness of the pitch.
Match this !:D
He played a big innings in Sharjah earlier this yr....or maybe last yr.....Pak beat sri lanka chasin a target of 250+....dont have ny scorecards!
NOTE:
Before you go further I would want you to forget that Inzi is Pakistani. If it helps think he is an Indian.
Now then Inzi is a great batsman[Almost all the strokes in the book, good player of pace and spin]. Has the record to prove it in both ODI and Test, but has he been a great match winner as well ?
What I am trying to say is that for a great, we consider him, his innings are far and few. You people have mentioned stuff. I would love to prove myself wrong. I acknowledge he is one of the best batsmen Pakistan has produced.
*BUT, Has he proved to be a great match winner ? *
By match winner I mean when he has been what Brian Lara was in the last AUS tour of West Indies. Lara was the only man standing between the Aussies and victory. He was the main scorer and the inning revolved around him. The others just provided support. Jacobs the keeper or Jimmy Adams (I think I could be wrong here……).
His scores 277,213,153*,181, 101 (77 balls). [Lara played more good innings in one series againt the best opposition in one series than Inzi in his 10 years ....? ]
Brian Lara, 131 against Pakistan in Sharjha to win the match
Or the kind of innings Javed Miandad played in Sharjha. The whole inning revolved around him.
Mark Boucher 173 for England to save the Ashes.
Laxman’s 286 (Yes I know he is Indian but fact remains…..)
De Silva’s 103 in the WC 99 final is the kind of inning I am talking about.
Note : All the scores are big scores. It shows the time spend on the crease, the concentration involved.
Btw do you think I am asking too much?
Hayden played a number of good innings in one year; Michael Vaughan for instance has played at least 2 or 3 very important innings against Australia. Andy Flower last year against India was just remarkable. A De Silva always but especially after the world cup has showed such consist form and class that they started calling him the ROCK.
So I ask how his performance has been after that. How has he carried the burden? How has he performed in pressure situations? Has he stood up and saved Pakistan.
What I feel is for a batsman of his talent and class the innings are far too scarce…
Saby and funguy are the only who can think of any thing other than the WC 92 semi final and final innings. Plus the inning he played against Aus in the test match?
WC 92 :
Yes it was a good inning. Vital and crucial .But the platform was provided to him by Javed and Imran. Wasim was involved in there… Plus he was not known. It is now that the oppositions know he is the main batsman and they go after him. Now he is under pressure to perform. Cuz now he is the most senior and the most looked after batsman…. (Reaching on top is easy, staying there is difficult)
I would also be interested to know why our main batsman came in at No 8 in that particular test.
Is that enough in 10 years?
Btw do you think I am asking too much? Why do I ask so much?
Hayden played a number of good innings in one year; Michael Vaughan for instance has played at least 2 or 3 very important innings against Australia. Andy Flower last year against India was just remarkable. De Silva always, but especially after the world cup 96 showed such consist form and class that they started calling him the ROCK. His inning on 103 in the final is the kind of inning I am talking about.
If I sound “too” critical that is because I want the best for Pakistan and for Pakistanis. All I want is Inzi to play like the great bastsman we think he is.
One player cant win the game. Cricket is a Team game and to win atleast 50% of the players have to perform. Inzi is one of the best in his generation.
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One player cant win the game. Cricket is a Team game and to win atleast 50% of the players have to perform. Inzi is one of the best in his generation.
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Duh?
*Inzamam-ul-Haq * and Yousuf Youhana arrived in South Africa with tremendous reputations, but left with their images severely tarnished. The work horses of the Pakistan middle order had failed miserably and the team suffered accordingly. Batting on a pitch that was made to order for the batsmen, no excuse can be given for the inability to bat for long periods.
Add one more …
Here is the Ref.
http://www-usa.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2003/JAN/117562_RSA_05JAN2003.html
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**Inzamam-ul-Haq * and Yousuf Youhana arrived in South Africa with tremendous reputations, but left with their images severely tarnished. The work horses of the Pakistan middle order had failed miserably and the team suffered accordingly. Batting on a pitch that was made to order for the batsmen, no excuse can be given for the inability to bat for long periods.
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Both are still great batsmen with test averages close to 50. A bad series doesn't make a good player into a bad one. Try looking at the bigger picture.
I hope Inzamam and Youhana prove me wrong in the upcomming tour ?
insha'Allah!
Inzamam's stand against Bangladesh at Multan. top that :p
Not so much the significance of the achievement per se, but the reprecussions had it gone the other way. :D
danga fasaad on the proverbial streets, another messy food-fight at the PCB and shuffling and reshuffling to follow.
I agree upto some extend with paindoo. I think the general picture of Inzi is blurred by his inconsistant performance in recent years. The main thing is that us, who witnessed the WC92, knew by that time that two greats are about to depart the game. The Great Khan and the jhaaroo man Javed Miandad. The fellows who made Pakistan as shining star of the cricket world. You can still see that effect even today. Every other Pakistani debutant becomes a star and well known in the world. I am not talking flacey here, its true. India has just earned it in last 4/5 years otherwise, except Tendi, Azhar, Ganguly and Jadeja, no other player got into limelight. (here i am not talking about gavasker/kapil era). Ausstraila, South Africa and Pakistan were the teams in 90s that every kid would know the 11 players in the squad by heart. The credit goes to those two greats who earned our cricket pride a long way from early 1980s till 1992, together they'd gone through so many ups and downs, wins and losses but at the end gave us the glory that we will remember for the rest of our lives.
In that very world cup, we saw a young, raw and energetic batsman that Khan believed in and brought abroad for the very first time in the mega event. As most of the time, Khan's believe was proved and the guy performed very well in the tournament and played memorable innings. We all believed that he will be the successor of Miandad as a backbone of our ever fragile batting lineup. He was good and brave at fast bowling and was a natural stroke player. With all this in mind, when we see his last 12 year career, it all gets blurry. With the first few years of consistant hitting we saw him as Greats like Miandad, Zaheer Abbas and Mushtaq Mohammed. But later on he didn't live upto his potential, THIS IS A FACT. We did have huge expectations from him, but he looked very ordinary and unreliable in the middle order, mostly seen making 20ish and getting run out. Thats not what a great should be.
Test your feelings guys. Those who have seen 80s and 90s games in those days. When there was a crises time in the innings and Miandad still have to come or on pitch every pakistani would be relaxed with big hope, regardless of the required runrate or falling wickets. You guys will agree specially those who watched those matches live back then. That feelings come only in nail-biting moments of the innings (young teenage friends on KK might not have seen those Imran/Miandad great days). Miandad was a savior, the man of crises, critique used to call him. Thats what is called THE MATCH WINNER. As they call him in Urdu 'run chor' meaning making a run or two extra on everyball.
Do we ever had the same feelings for Inzi? Yes everyone had it after WC92, he was the super batsman of the team. But that feeling was short lived as we see him clicking only 1 our of 5 innings, thus an incosistant and unreliable batsman on which we couldn't count. Saeid Anwar was even more reliable than Inzi, if you look at late 90s scorecards. I heard more about ppl talking about Saied's performances and Amir Sohail's squre cuts back then. In a nut shell, he didn't live upto his potential. With his style, physique and strength, he could be another Viv Richard or Zaheer Abbas. But he fadded away his own colors lately.
You guys can prove me wrong with statstics, but reliablity....nah!
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here is a break-down of inzi's innings....
57% of his innings show a score of <30....
and only 22% innings show a score of >50....
^ Thanx Mughal.
This clearly illustrates my point.