what is the meaning of the word “haram”.
can it be used as a name?
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it is not pronounced as haram but ha-ram …ha’ram… ha-ram means sacred, pious, honorable.
The Arabic language has two separate words, حرم ḥaram and حرام ḥarām](Haram - Wikipedia), both derived from the same triliteral Semitic root Ḥ-R-M](Ḥ-R-M - Wikipedia). Both of these words can mean “forbidden” and/or “sacred” in a general way, but each has also developed some specialized meanings. A third related word derived from the same root, حريم ḥarīm, most directly corresponds to English “harem”. This article covers the word ḥaram (with short vowels in the singular form).
Re: Masjid Al Haram - meaning
it is haram for non muslims to go in that area.
it is haram for non muslims to go in that area.
That's not entirely true. Non Muslims used to go to the sacred mosques until a century or so ago.
I may be wrong in the assertion but the stricter access was enforced much later in the Islamic period.
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you could be correct. don't the sikhs claim that their Guru Nanak went for hajj?
That's not entirely true. Non Muslims used to go to the sacred mosques until a century or so ago.
I may be wrong in the assertion but the stricter access was enforced much later in the Islamic period.
U mean just 100 years back, non-muslims use to visit Masjid-e-Haram and Masjid-e-Nabvi??? can you back your statement with some ref?
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^^ Guru Nanak made pilgrimage to Makka.
http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Guru_Nanak_in_Mecca
Although this wiki page has a lot of extra stories about Guru Ji and Muslims. That I don’t think are correct.
However the fact remains that guru Ji went to Makka for pilgrimage. It was pretty common back then for the sufis and travelers to visit the grand places in other countries.
Visa/Passport is a relatively recent idea. I am sure you realize that already.
hey i think u should stop misleading muslims here by quoting baseless sources.if guru nanak visited then can u pls explain why dident your mirza qadiani visited hijaz??cause he was clever and new he wont return with his head!!
hey i think u should stop misleading muslims here by quoting baseless sources.if guru nanak visited then can u pls explain why dident your mirza qadiani visited hijaz??cause he was clever and new he wont return with his head!!
His teechi teechi angels couldn't help him travel to Makkah. :D
Good now did he made his pligrimage in last 100 years? because thats what you were saying in your last post?
other than this, there is confusion about Guru nanak himself, some argue that he was a Muslim some say he wasn’t.. so the example is not good enough, can you provide us with little less controversial personality..
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^lol yea teechi teechi could be the fastest angel in qadian but he had no authority in hijaz.
Good now did he made his pligrimage in last 100 years? because thats what you were saying in your last post?
other than this, there is confusion about Guru nanak himself, some argue that he was a Muslim some say he wasn't.. so the example is not good enough, can you provide us with little less controversial personality..
No need to get argumentative on something trivial.
100 years was a figure of speech.
Makkah was open to non-Muslims for far longer time than it has been under Muslim control.
I may be wrong, but Messenger pbuh didn't specifically forbid and nor did Allah swt.
Holy places are just that. They are public places and anyone should be able to go there for pilgrimage.
You think if a non-Muslim has received spiritual pull to go visit bait-ullah, then who are we the mortal human beings to stop him/her from being at the holy place and being among the spiritually enlightened place.
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^^ as long no body brings back idols in haram sharif, he/she should be OK.
what is the meaning of the word "haram". can it be used as a name?
First, I think you're on the wrong forum asking about this.
Second, it is Al Masjid Al Haraam, and not Masjid Al Haraam... they would have different connotations.
Third, @Afshi there is no such 'restriction' for 'non-muslim' people.
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To add to what Lusi and hypnotix-2000 have said:
Al-Masjid Al-Haraam - Translates to - The Mosque, The Sanctuary.
Haraam in other contexts means forbidden.
The root is H-R-M in the third person singular male this is pronounced 'Haruma' which means "he was prohibited from"
So the crux of the meaning we can see is some sort of separation. Either from what is unclean from what is clean, acceptable from what is not, and so on. Al-Haraam is a sanctuary on that ground no animal nor tree can be killed.
Ihram also shares its meaning from the HRM root, in which state its becomes forbidden to hunt and cut hair, etc.
Think of haraam as a metaphysical barrier encompassing the object inside this barrier certain things that were otherwise ok to do become prohibited. Since an eating barrier exists for Muslims around pork it is haram to eat. Since a harm barrier exists around the mosque in Makkah it is forbidden to harm any living creature there.
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Please see this from wiki about Richard Francis Burton who travelled to Mecca..
"Motivated by his love of adventure, Burton got the approval of the Royal Geographical Society for an exploration of the area and he gained permission from the Board of Directors of the British East India Company to take leave from the army. His seven years in India gave Burton a familiarity with the customs and behaviour of Muslims and prepared him to attempt a Hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca and, in this case, Medina). It was this journey, undertaken in 1853, which first made Burton famous. He had planned it whilst travelling disguised among the Muslims of Sindh, and had laboriously prepared for the ordeal by study and practice (including being circumcised to further lower the risk of being discovered).
Although Burton was not the first non-Muslim European to make the Hajj (Ludovico di Barthema in 1503 is believed to hold that distinction[12]), his pilgrimage is the most famous and the best documented of the time. He adopted various disguises including that of a Pashtun to account for any oddities in speech, but he still had to demonstrate an understanding of intricate Islamic ritual, and a familiarity with the minutiae of Eastern manners and etiquette. Burton's trek to Mecca was quite dangerous and his caravan was attacked by bandits (a common experience at the time). As he put it, although "... neither Koran or Sultan enjoin the death of Jew or Christian intruding within the columns that note the sanctuary limits, nothing could save a European detected by the populace, or one who after pilgrimage declared himself an unbeliever."[13] The pilgrimage entitled him to the title of Hajji and to wear green head wrap. Burton's own account of his journey is given in A Personal Narrative of a Pilgrimage to Al-Medinah and Meccah (1855).
Some members of his entourage suspected there was more to Burton than met the eye. He came close to being discovered one night when he lifted his robe to urinate, rather than squatting as an Arab would. He thought he was unseen, but the youngest member of his group happened to see him. The lad accused him of being an impostor, but let Burton convince him to keep his doubts to himself.
When Burton returned to the British Army he sat for examination as an Arab linguist, which he failed"
People have already mentioned that the both Mecca and Medina were open to Non muslims. I read somewhere years ago that non muslims were barred from both cities after a consipiracy emerged of someone trying to dig up the body of the Messenger SAW by digging a tunnel to Masjid E Nabwi.
He knows best!!!!
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Don't forget they pretended themselfs as muslims.
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This question came up today as I was watching an episode of Museum Secrets.
The narrator was describing the area of a sultan's palace where he kept his "harem" as the "har-ram" and interpretted the word to mean "forbidden"....which to me sounded inaccurate.
My understanding between haraam and haram is still a bit shady.....
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Haraam means forbidden when it comes to certain activities. Mehram is off shoot of that word, so the one who is mehram to you is not allowed to marry you. In urdu, we started using that word with negative connotation.
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but differentiate between haram and haraam please....