Mashriqi hayaa (Eastern Modesty)

[muqawwee123]

Why Desis are so much proud of Mashriqi Hayaa and consider other nations (west) as be-hayaa.

I heard may people (especially religious parties) calling west la-deen (irreligious) and be-hayaa society?

Do each culture got different criteria of modesty or its natural and universal every where?

PS: This thread is inspired / based on comment given by Little Princess in a Poetry thread

[KKF]

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sharm o Hayaa aurat kaa zevar hai aur is zevar ke baGhair aurat nangii nazar aatii hai. meraa ek she’r thaa:
**
Husn paakeezgii-e-dil se jhukaaye nazreN
isko ham nek_sifat sharm_o_Hayaa kahte haiN!**

[calypsodc]

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Every society has its own norms w.r.t modesty. Unfortunately many desis tend to be small minded and tend to judge another culture using the yard stick of their own culture.

[Kinzz]

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How can we judge someone else sharmo haya? They way they appear? Or they treat us others? Desi or non desi you will always see sharmo haya and non sharmo haya every where,also there are some people who appear like a symbol of sharmo haya but somewhere in their life they will treat others like crap.

[muqawwee123]

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@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

sharm o Hayaa aurat kaa zevar hai aur is zevar ke baGhair aurat nangii nazar aatii hai. meraa ek she’r thaa:
**
Husn paakeezgii-e-dil se jhukaaye nazreN
isko ham nek_sifat sharm_o_Hayaa kahte haiN!**

Is there a fixed criteria of sharm o hayaa? What do you think about the perception that all ‘Goris’ are be-hayaa?

[KKF]

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@muqawwee123

Is there a fixed criteria of sharm o hayaa? What do you think about the perception that all ‘Goris’ are be-hayaa?

mere nazdeek to sharm o Hayaa vo hai jo Allah ne bataayii haiN…

[muqawwee123]

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@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

mere nazdeek to sharm o Hayaa vo hai jo Allah ne bataayii haiN…

Nice point.. but whether modesty is determined by religion or culture?

Have a Hindu or a Muslim in India, got different concept of modesty?

[calypsodc]

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@muqawwee123

Nice point.. but whether modesty is determined by religion or culture?

Have a Hindu or a Muslim in India, got different concept of modesty?

Why hindu and muslim, even between hindus there is a different concept of modesty. I remember as a kid who had watched many a bollywood movie, I had once taken my dupatta and tried to cover my head with it before going to the temple. My great grand mother and grand parents who were accompanying me scolded me soundly. I still remember them blaming me for picking up an ugly habit from god knows where and telling me never cover your head unless u r protecting yourself from the sun, it is wrong. Another taboo was going abound with unbound hair even if said hair was only shoulder length . So what was a sign of modesty in one culture was a “bad practice” in another.

[Kinzz]

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Awwww but in desi culture/religion girls do cover their heads when they visit temple or any other holy place

@calypsodc

Why hindu and muslim, even between hindus there is a different concept of modesty. I remember as a kid who had watched many a bollywood movie, I had once taken my dupatta and tried to cover my head with it before going to the temple. My great grand mother and grand parents who were accompanying me scolded me soundly. I still remember them blaming me for picking up an ugly habit from god knows where and telling me never cover your head unless u r protecting yourself from the sun, it is wrong. Another taboo was going abound with unbound hair even if said hair was only shoulder length . So what was a sign of modesty in one culture was a “bad practice” in another.

[calypsodc]

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@Kinzz

Awwww but in desi culture/religion girls do cover their heads when they visit temple or any other holy place

It is a practice common in north not south so my grand parents and great grand mother who have never watched bollywod movies would not know that :D.South Indian enter temples with head uncovered.

[Kinzz]

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@calypsodc

It is a practice common in north not south so my grand parents and great grand mother who have never watched bollywod movies would not know that :D.South Indian enter temples with head uncovered.

Wow so this is something new that south Indians n north Indians practice things differently …what is the reason behind it?

[KKF]

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@muqawwee123

Nice point.. but whether **modesty is determined by religion or culture? **

Have a Hindu or a Muslim in India, got different concept of modesty?

for me and most Muslims, the religions reigns supreme.those mUslims who give culture more weight are Burger families for me and i do NOT care for them.

[calypsodc]

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@Kinzz

Wow so this is something new that south Indians n north Indians practice things differently …what is the reason behind it?

Not sure how it started in the north. It is a social custom that crept in some time I suppose. There is no religious sanction in the vedas that one has to cover head as a mark of respect. In the south it is considered inauspicious since in older days (we r talking pre-independence and beyond), widows used to get their head tonsured as a mark of grief and only they used to pull their sarees above their head to cover it. Otherwise it was just not done.

Hair as long as it is bound is not associated with modesty in my culture I suppose.

[STA]

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what is wrong with it muqa bhai.

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http://www.paklinks.com/gs/attachment.php?attachmentid=25398&d=1349361658

[muqawwee123]

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@STA

what is wrong with it muqa bhai.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/attachment.php?attachmentid=25399&d=1349361780

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/attachment.php?attachmentid=25398&d=1349361658

The second one is ok. first one can be censored by religious board

[muqawwee123]

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@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

for me and most Muslims, the religions reigns supreme.those mUslims who give culture more weight are Burger families for me and i do NOT care for them.

But it is difficult to ascertain what is being followed is a religious practice or a cultural aspect in societies where various religions and cultures exist.

Some people also say that religious practices (in Muslims) are influenced by Arab culture (including many traditions followed in Pre-Islamic Arabia)

[KKF]

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@muqawwee123

But it is difficult to ascertain what is being followed is a religious practice or a cultural aspect in societies where various religions and cultures exist.

Some people also say that religious practices (in Muslims) are influenced by Arab culture (including many traditions followed in Pre-Islamic Arabia)

i am NOT talking about traditions or cultures…i’m talking about what Qur’aan and sunna tells us.

[muqawwee123]

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@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

i am NOT talking about traditions or cultures…i’m talking about what Qur’aan and sunna tells us.

Did Islam come with new criteria of modesty?

[STA]

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well muqa bhai, recently I observed too much advancement in our fashion industry.

[muqawwee123]

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@STA

well muqa bhai, recently I observed too much advancement in our fashion industry.

advancement towards what? modesty? vulgarity?