marrying a white convert

Hellooo. I wanted to reach out and ask if anybody has any experience/knowledge on how it is like to be married to a convert? I met this guy on a muslim dating website and everything has been halal so far. He has even met my parents. The thing is, my aunties and mom sat me down a few days ago and were talking to me about how if i marry this individual, I will be compromising a lot to make him feel comfortable. As a person he is a great guy, very down to earth and respectful. He is still completing his undergraduate degree and is working part-time. In my parents mind, he is not well established enough for me. But i am not materialistic.

If i did marry this guy, i would be living with my parents till he is done school. Where I live this isn’t a good thing unfortunately. I know this makes it harder for young individuals to live the halal way, but it is what it is. He is an only child and his parents will not be a part of our lives as they do not agree with his lifestyle. From what i understand laws are usually a big deal in brown culture.

He is very eager to marry me, but I am not 100% what he is looking for. For example, he really appreciates women who wear the hijab, whereas most of the women in my family including myself do not. Although we are muslim, we are moderate. We have parties where men and women can mingle, we wear brown clothing (saris that may show some skin) and do other things that he perceives as unislamic.

I really like this guy, but I feel like in the long run our cultural differences will be too hard to deal with. At the same time i feel like i should strive to be with a partner who lives his life for the afterlife.

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Why is it that these issues don't come up when a guy marries a white girl??

It's honestly up to you. I got contacted by a white convert the other day too, and he seems like a nice guy. But at the end of the day, I want to raise a Pakistani family. With my kids having both parents as Pakistani. So they can maybe one day go back and re-connect with their land, people, and culture. Maybe do some charity work, etc in Pakistan too. If I have kids who are half-white, I feel like they may wave away their Pakistani heritage, and they wont keep in touch with language, etc.

But I have girlfriends who have married Caucasian guys, hispanic guys, who converted to Islam, and they're happy.

It's about you, and whether you think you can live with someone from a different ethnic culture than yourself, and if you're ok with kids growing up in a mixed environment.

I bet if you were a guy, your aunts would not have sat you down and had that discussion with you.

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I suppose being Muslim isn't enough. Its about cultural compatibility too and the kind of Islam he follows.

Best of Luck

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You might be more in tune with this guy than with desi guys. Just saying. If the desi community has turned their back on girls raised in the west because we all must be wild...then I say give the goras a chance. Maybe you may be culturally more in tune with him than with a Pakistani guy who is still confused on whether he should be married to his mom?

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Why don't you clear these things with the guy first?

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Go with your gut feeling.. as weird as it may sound... if you already have doubts, address these with him before you jump into marriage.
If your family and you are more into the brown culture - dressing up in the clothing, eating the food, etc and he feels uncomfortable then really be honest with yourself and find out if that would bother you in the long run.

Also, don't go into this marriage thinking he will change, because he won't. And if he wants someone who is more religious - ie. wears hijab, then discuss this with him first. Also, if you have no support or contact with his family - does that bother you? Be honest with yourself and what you are looking for in a guy.

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^^ this!

I have quite a few friends married to white converts, alhamdulilah they have very happy marriages.

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Muslim ‘Dating site’? hmmm :hmmm:

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^She probably meant matrimonial..

Agree with Amber and Anya.. Go with your gut instinct but also iron out any niggles you may have beforehand, don't expect him to change..

I'm married to one and things are going fine so far..

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From what I have seen, reverts are more religious than a lot of Muslim Pakistanis. A lot of us are Muslim simply because we were born into a Muslim family but reverts , especially those who had already reverted before they met, do so after a lot of thought. Please think carefully before you enter this union and have a good discussion with this guy too.

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well, even if you are 25% desi and 75% american, then it would be difficult to adjust. I am not saying it can’t be done but you have to put a lot of work. I can’t talk about a muslim convert but I am currently dating someone white and its good so far but there are essentially some major issues which I could see coming up in future. I am just thinking of ending it before it goes too far w/o ruining friendship. Someone from my own cultural background I guess would be much easier to understand. Oh well

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One of my khalas is married to a white convert. They met in college and have been married for a bit over 30 years. He/his family are originally from Kansas (ie. super white lol) but his family is very supportive of his conversion. But then again, my family is not super religious (most women do not wear hijab, we eat non-halal, family events are mixed etc.), and my khala is very respectful of his family's traditions. For example, every year they spend Christmas with his family in Kansas, take them gifts etc (but they do not attend Christmas services in church). In turn, his family often visits them during Eid, brings gifts for Eid etc. His family also does not cook/eat pork when they're with my khala and her husband. They also do not consume any alcohol while visiting my khala. BUT they do have alcohol in their home but my khala/her husband doesn't have a problem with this. Point being that both sides compromise and thus, have managed to maintain a great relationship over the year. Khala's husband is ok with eating non-halal (but does not eat pork), is ok with our mixed family gatherings, kuala not wearing hijab etc. Point being he never had any issues with our cultural practices. His family is also great about desi culture. They'll get mehndi, put in desi clothes etc. during Eid and ask questions about desi culture when they don't understand something. Oh and on a side note, the white husband has picked up Urdu over the years and can understand it very well. He can speak it decently too (although with a heavy gora accent lol)!

However OP, in your situation, I already see red flags. You have not mentioned his age or how long ago he converted. But since he has not finished his undergrad yet, I'm assuming he's 22 or under.

1) Your family is like mine as in they're not super religious. However, if this guy is not supportive of your family's cultural practices, it has the potential to cause major problems in the future. This can happen even if the guy is desi but very religious. For example, AFTER marriage, is he going to be willing to attend your family events and/or be ok with you attending family events since the genders are mixed? If you have daughter, will he expect you to enforce hijab on the daughter and if so, how are you going to do that if you yourself don't wear it? After marriage, will he be ok if you want to wear a sari to a mixed family event? Is he going to be ok with his daughter (assuming you have a girl after marriage) mingling freely in mixed family events? These are things that can cause a major rift after marriage and effect not only your marriage, but also your relationship with your own family. My khala's marriage (and many other mixed marriages) work where the non-desi spouse is supportive of desi cultural practices....even though many of those cultural practices go against religious teachings. You need to really sit down and figure out whether you plan on continuing to participate on your family's cultural practices, and then have a open/direct conversation with him regarding his expectations of you AND future children when it comes to these cultural practices.

2) I'm not sure why there is a rush to get married if he does not have a full-time job and neither do you. You already know that no birth control method is 100% so if you get married now and get pregnant, who will financially support the child? In my opinion, one of you needs to have a full-time job and earn enough to live separately/pay for basics before getting married.

3) You also need to seriously consider whether YOU are ok with his family being out of the picture. That means your future children will not get to know their dada/dadi. You will need to explain to the children why their dada/dadi won't see them. There is no right/wrong answer to this b/c many mixed marriages are fine with one person's family being out of the picture. BUT there are many people who don't like this situation b/c they always imagined "one big happy family" after marriage. So really consider if you are ok with having 0 contact/emotional support from his family not only for yourself....but also for your future kids.

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Yes sorry i mean a matrimonial website!

Thank you for your kind replies. I have been giving this issue a thought for over a month. I genuinely like this person but I feel like I cannot offer him what he wants out of life and marriage.

He is actually in his thirties and is in school at the moment because he wanted a career change due to his conversion to Islam. I personally do not believe there is any age limit for an individual's desire to gain knowledge.

I am in my early twenties, I have finished my undergraduate degree and have a good full-time job related to my field of study, alhamdullilah.

I realize there is still time for me to find a spouse, but i would like to get married young as one of my aspirations is family life vs. career life (although I know this is looked down upon in our society because women are now expected to strive to make lotsa $$$$)

Paheli made some really good points that I also thought about. This individual is not particularly accepting of my culture. He believes that many of the things we do go against Islam. At one point during our conversations called me and my father 'jahil' lol.

anyways, I guess it is for the best. I have no issues in marrying an individual outside of my culture. However, mutual respect for eachother's cultures is very important imo. There is a religious side to life and a cultural side as well.

And no, I am not ok with not having inlaws. Also, I noticed that he is very strict on free mixing among marriageable family members as well. As in, he feels that if islamically I can marry them, I should not be around them. I don't really see my cousins and relatives in that light at all. Simply because it is allowed islamically does not mean i will go for it! This also goes for him as well, he does not feel comfortable socializing with my relatives in fear that it might be inappropriate. However, I am the oldest cousin in my family and there are many many lil kids that will look up to him as an older brother. I don't really think any of my females cousins will try to cop a feel lol.

I feel that my husband should fit the leadership role. He will be a role model for a lot of my family members and even though his religious tendencies are great, his social skills and the way he thinks about my culture may be a bit too narrow.

Thank you for all your input <3

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well, you should have bailed when he called your dad ‘jahil’ - way to respect a potential FIL

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Why the “lol”? :confused: You think a guy calling your dad “jahil” is funny? I’m amazed that you can continue to “genuinely like” a guy after he called your father and you jahil. If he’s treating you and your family this way now, how do you think he’s going to treat you after the wedding?

This whole “I want to get married young” thing…get over it b/c it’s clearly clouding your judgment. There is no point in getting married early if you end up married to a jerk (to put it lightly) who’s going to cause you and your family nothing but heartache.

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I'm curious, what line of work was he in before and what is he studying/hoping to do now?

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the lol was to express my disbelief of his comment. We were having a heated argument on the topic of dating. Basically when he met my parents, my dad expressed to him that we need to get to know each other a little longer before we take the plunge. To him that translated to 'jahil' behaviour because my muslim father was sort of supporting the idea of dating.

I also called him an extremist and mentioned that being a convert does not make him a better muslim. I also called him an ahole :(

Yeah, youre absolutely correct about judgment thing. I feel like the timing I met him was totally wrong. But I've learned my lesson for sure!

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He used to produce music I believe. Right now he is studying to become a teacher.

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Yeah I stopped talking to him a bit over that. But he did call to apologize and I forgave him because we both exchanged some nasty words

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About the jahil thing, he sounds a bit overzealous. I've noticed that converts (to any religion) tend to be quite overzealous. It's rather like they feel they have to prove how dedicated they are. Of course, this isn't always the case though.