International students from Pakistan studying in USA, UK or Canada are generally good guys who have recently shifted from Pakistan (with strong Eastern values since their upbringing had been done in Pakistan) and might want to permanently settle down in USA, UK or Canada. They may or may not have fobby accent. They had to pass through many interviews, TOEFLE, IELTS, SAT etc and many of them might have done O levels and A levels before coming to USA, UK and Canada. So you will definitely need to meet them before deciding anyting. A guy living in the US since 3-4 years doesn't necessarily have a fobby accent, but if he otherwise is a very good person, with good education, career and family, fobby accent can be ignored. The accent can get improved with time.
I've personally seen/met more 'ayash' Pakistani International Students, I suppose it's because if they afford to come out West to study then they're generally well-off/influential. They've got cash to burn, liqour to consume, fancy set of wheels and an entourage of groupies. I'm slightly exaggerating but just slightly. Then they need a 'shareef' girl!
FOB guy with or without FOBBY accent.......big no no..........
best option.......marry some gora or something......desi dudes are mostly backward and stuff......they will act nice before but once you marry them...the inner typical desi mentality guy will come out................and you will regret it for the rest of your life......
hey...i am just trying to help......keeping in view her situation...
..look at these posts...they confirm that fobby people are not good for marriage..
I've personally seen/met more 'ayash' Pakistani International Students, I suppose it's because if they afford to come out West to study then they're generally well-off/influential. They've got cash to burn, liqour to consume, fancy set of wheels and an entourage of groupies. I'm slightly exaggerating but just slightly. Then they need a 'shareef' girl!
To the OP: One thing just to bear in mind.. and I know its a giant generalisation but it does happen.. that the international students come abroad and kinda go a little crazy in the whole new freedom aspect side.. then when they meet a 'good' girl they're like woah and swoon all over her cuz she's 'shareef'.. but give it a while and they may lose interest.. it's a matter of sincerity you have to be careful about. Happened to me recently
It's not any more shallow than going for a certain type of look imo and besides she needs to be attracted to him.. If she finds a strong accent a bit of a turn-off I don't see the big deal.. I'd find a v.strong Indian accent a turn-off just as I wouldn't like a strong Cockney one either and it's not like I could turn it off and not have to listen to it day in and day out..
But presumably she would be communicating with her hubby in a desi language, not english. And her issue seems to be that she will be embarassed by his accent in the presence of other people which i think is not only shallow but snobby too and reeks of an "you are inferior cos you have a 'fobby' accent" attitude. OP i'm sorry to say it, but yes you are immature and should stick to someone without the south asian accent. let's hope he doesn't have one of those chavvy ghetto accents that some desi guys here have.
hey...i am just trying to help......keeping in view her situation...
..look at these posts...they confirm that fobby people are not good for marriage..
Nomi, your conclusion is incorrect here. Majority of International students are "ayash", they go clubbing, drink, have gf for fun and action only. These students are filthy rich and spoiled. Although, there is also a group of students that are hard-working and don't get involved in such activities.
Nomi, your conclusion is incorrect here. Majority of International students are "ayash", they go clubbing, drink, have gf for fun and action only. These students are filthy rich and spoiled. Although, there is also a group of students that are hard-working and don't get involved in such activities.
The pool of candidates that OP has...Good English Speakers.........there are two options really.........she can't import a guy clearly...
hey...i am just trying to help......keeping in view her situation...
..look at these posts...they confirm that fobby people are not good for marriage..
I disagree with that,,, i dont think there is anyone that is "not good for marriage" ... the trick is to marry someone you are compatible with and realizing that marriage is not a cake walk...it does require work and both partners should work together to make it work...being a fob or not has nothing to do with it
i dont get the fixation with the accent... seriously kya pata fobby accent waala may be a great guy but u write him off cuz of his accent and end up with a jerk that doesnt have a fobby accent,,,wouldnt you regret writing off the fobby guy then? is it seriously that embarassing? my dad has an accent he also has a PhD in biomedical engineering and is in a great position in his department at work. he has an upstanding moral character and is a man of principles-a true intellectual...as such everyone who interacts with him respects him ....similarly my mom has an accent too she's an amazing lady and ive never been ashamed of either of them if anything I don't care much for the ppl who judge them based on their accents so why cant we accord the same respect to our partners...
I would think that instead of being ashamed that ur partner has an accent you'd be disgusted with the ppl who are judging him/her for it
i am just pointing out the facts to her....about the International/ Fobby guys........
Dude, I know you were being sarcastic earlier by saying oh look you girls think international guys are no good. What I am saying is in response to your sarcasm and that its actually true they are ayash. My answer was in no way response to the original question posed. BUT like llxxll said the trick is to find someone compatible it can be am international student who is ayash, hard working, a local or someone whose from Pakistan. Don't put words in peoples mouths.
I think it would depend on the guy but I've seen so many marriages where the guy will marry a British/American/Canadian girl and then will leave her as soon as he gets an indefinite stay. I'm not saying every guy does that but I've seen plenty, also since a lot of them have never been exposed to British culture they either shun it (because all goray are kafir) or go crazy since they've never seen so many naked girls and pubs on every corner, again I don't mean every guy :) (Please don't kill me Asian guys)
Just be careful, personally I'd be wary if the guy wasn't from 'here' and I'd approach it all VERY cautiously :) But then again I have seen some successful marriages, it generally works out a lot better when the girl is from Pakistan and the guy is from here for some odd reason. Good luck though and don't jump into anything, there's no pressure :)
you see........peeople just don't get it.........for foreign girls.......its always really really dangerous to consider Fobby guys........too many risk factors...
Desi guys are looking for desi girls. Everybody has differance in mentality. Some people prefer back home while some people are fine with desi girls.
Importing a girl from pakistan aswell as its own qualities may also have its inconviniences. Firstly it takes longer fo the imported girl to actually arrive, due to visa and administational delays, secondly once she has arrivved- similar to any ‘fob’ guy, it takes time to teach her and enable her to adjust to the new enviroment.
This is not to descredit desi or paki girls. Its just the facts.
I dont know how else to state it so i will just be blunt but let me assure you this is not directed to the OP or any individual specifically.
Please dont blame all guys if girls and/or their parents are going to shortchange themselves/their daughters and will be too freaking stupid, too easily pressured, too damn desperate, too damn trusting of others' recommendations, to get hooked up to some jacque arse without doing due diligence and then blame the entire gender for the ills of their great find.
Please spare us.
and girls...especially those in the west, no more excuses about how family wont let you do this or that, grow a backbone, move out, make your own life, make your own decisions rather than feeling down and trapped, and having your life destroyed by getting hooked up with some moron. broaden your horizons, look beyond desis only, identify when your preferences are keeping you from good people.
yes we all have ideals in mind ranging from looks, to background, to profession... but be flexible and open to juggle some of those preferences better.