is it a spiritual institution for you?
strictly religious?
or social contract?
or something personal between two individuals?
i ask for a reason i wont reveal yet.
It is a all of those for me. However, this is only the tip of the big giant dark dark dark monstrosity of the iceburg that lurks beneath :p
Re: Marriage
Marriage in not just companionship, or two 'committed' people living lives together.
First: Marriage is between man and a woman.
Second: The condition is not imposed by one on the other. It is 'accepted' by both individuals.
Hence, what gora kala tries to say it is some way a conditioned (or forced) act then it is not true. No one puts (or should put) gun to two individuals.
It is supposed to be a willful act by two opposite sex members.
You got it all wrong, did't you?
"First: Marriage is between man and a woman.
Thanks for the information, you are inadvertently strengthening the hands of US supreme court. Listen, don't talk about marriage being something between man and a women exclusively because
if some people of certain part of Pakistan get the wind of marriage being possible otheerwise, many women from some part of the coutry will migrate....Trust me Diwana, trust me.
Listen I said
"In fact Marriage is "conditioned" all the way from its very inception to its collapse and even beyond"
Do you see the word "impose" or "force", if not then how did you assume that conditon can only mean a forceful imposition.
What I said only meant that marriage is an institution that has builtin conditions (obligations) from the very moment a couple embraces this
instituon ( NIkkah) to the unfortunate time when they decied to exit this institution (Talaq) and beyond ( Nan-Nufqa).
It has to be willfull but that does't mean willingness is negation of obligations or conditions.
Re: Marriage
You got it all wrong, did't you?
"First: Marriage is between man and a woman.
Thanks for the information, you are inadvertently strengthening the hands of US supreme court. Listen, don't talk about marriage being something between man and a women exclusively because if some people of certain part of Pakistan get the wind of marriage being possible otheerwise, many women from some part of the coutry will migrate....Trust me Diwana, trust me.
Listen I said "In fact Marriage is "conditioned" all the way from its very inception to its collapse and even beyond"
Do you see the word "impose" or "force", if not then how did you assume that conditon can only mean a forceful imposition.
What I said only meant that marriage is an institution that has builtin conditions (obligations) from the very moment a couple embraces this instituon ( NIkkah) to the unfortunate time when they decied to exit this institution (Talaq) and beyond ( Nan-Nufqa).
It has to be willfull but that does't mean willingness is negation of obligations or conditions.
With or without any verdict of supreme court of any country, Marriage is between a man and woman.
I know what you mean about certain parts of Pakistan, in fact same/similar problem is in India as well.
OK. To come to the point,** if you mentioned word 'condition' as following the rules of relationship willingly then I agree.**
What gave a seemingly wrong impression is when you opposed the word 'unconditional' used by Niksik. It appeared you were being sarcastic to the word used.
"Unconditional' in this regard can be considered 'by choice and free will' each person wants to see other to be happy.
Re: Marriage
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I would be really misdirected had I been sarcastic about Miss Director, I don't want my GUPSHUP days to be numbered, not yet.
On a serious note nothing, in my opinion, is unconditional in marital life, my good mood, for example, is conditioned with her effort to server me good food and peaceful atmosphere in the home On the other hand her efforts to run a home like a home are conditioned with me being appreciative, caring and loving to her. All this is a part of a tacit agreement which is generally considered "unconditional".
Re: Marriage
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I would be really misdirected had I been sarcastic about Miss Director, I don't want my GUPSHUP days to be numbered, not yet.
On a serious note nothing, in my opinion, is unconditional in marital life, my good mood, for example, is conditioned with her effort to server me good food and peaceful atmosphere in the home On the other hand her efforts to run a home like a home are conditioned with me being appreciative, caring and loving to her. All this is a part of a tacit agreement which is generally considered "unconditional".
But what you wrote can be applied even outside marriage. Just a general human reaction and expectations.