Marital Problems

Hi All,

This is a typical scenario which you probably hear about a lot on a day to day basis. For me its my whole life and the reason I have come to this forum is I don’t really have anyone to talk to about this and the users on this forum are froma similar cultural background so may be able to come back with useful suggestions.

I am a UK born and have been brought up here but with a good/mix of easter western values. Actually had a very strict upbringing, don’t drink, not interested in clubbing. Like going out to retstaurants, holidays pretty ok stuff. Parents very focused on education and have MashAllah done eally well in terms of education and career.

As soon as I graduated my parents wanted me to marry a cousin in Pakistan (parents not very open minded when it comes to marriage) who is educated but me or parents didn’t know aything else about it. Being from my mums family had a lot of pressure to get married to him which i gave into it. I resisted initially as everyone does.

On the other hand my husband now was very insistent and chose to address my concerns and showed himself to be very open minded and understandin as we totally different. HE comes from a family where hijab is a basic, to sum up a very conservative family. The women don’t go out much, focus on education, strictly no free mixing, pressure to observer ‘Purdah’ even niqab. They are not allowed to watch televisionin there house. On the wedding they didn’t take photographs or any recordings. No mehndi etc.

I’m telling this to give a background on things and how they live its great. From the above someone would thing very pious but no they have a taste of materialistic things and not having a very financially strong background they are very greedy, a contrast to the religious environment but its there.

I come froma family where we pray our namaz but go out as a family, have family friends, and not as strict as my inlaws. No pressure to cover my head, wear short sleeves etc. And my parents provided me with a fairly luxurious life.

Now my husband knew that i wore western clothes, didn’t wear a hijab but wanted to marry as now I have come to learn that wanted to settle here.

I don’t know where to start about what I have been going through to make my marriage work but whatever it is has resulted in me being depressed, constantly living with a headache, nosebleeds due to stress and even feeling suicidal. I have a lot of pressure to make this marriage work mainly due to the whole family don’t see what I go through and I will be the bad ‘one’ in this.

I feel i don’t have anyone to talk about so please treat this thread with sensitivity.

Okay have been married for two years. Since the very first day had problems but only realising now or opening my eyes to everything. Since the very first day my husband wanted to know about previous boyfriends, how sexually experienecd I was. Little things like getting to open my suitcase to check the clothes my parents had given me. Obviously not being so obvious. He wanted to know if I had other rishtas.

Within two weeks of marriage while in pakistan wanted to know was there any way his brothr could get a job in UK or not. Mentioning about his sister how they had turned down a rishta bcoz the household had a very struct(in terms of religion) environment. this conv was possibly due me having a brother who is a good catc as my MIL made an attempt with my parents.

On the Walima day my husband was in a mood and when was taken to Hall told me to cover my front and got angry.

Since then he has had objections to my clothes and consistently gone on about it. He has turned into a very difficult person to live with. Objecting to why i wear so many creams on my face. He won’t kiss me as they have alcohol init. Himslef he is happy to use moituriser.

He like going out and ever since he has come to UK I have taken him to expensive restaurants and wherever I can. Thing is I hold a very high pressured job which he doesn’t agree with but is happy to blow the money.

I am not allowed to go oyt with my friends when he since thet day has landed been on the phone to his friends here in UK and always going out with them any chance he gets. When we go out its a nightmare as can’t eat bcoz he doesn’t trust that the meat is ‘Halal’ and when he is out with his friends no problem.

Even with me taking him out it has been u didn’t take me or we still haven’t been here.

In the midst of this i purchased a house with my dad taling time off to help me with the purcahse.

My parents gave me money as part of Jahez which my in laws insisted should be put into the bank immediately and it was. My husband got me to sign a few blank checques and have being trying to get the money over but for the past few months husband hasn’t managed to do that.

Hubby has appeared to be a very selfish character, just wantingto go out, have good food while i don’t have any needs.

Doesn’t like me talking to male colleagues or the clothes I wear and apparently i stress him out a lot when i’m the one with deteriorating heath.

This just the tip of problems but basically he wants me to be shut in the house while he can enjoy himself in peace. I have nothing to hide, don’t have a past. He checks all my emails, FB, any accounts and I justify any additions to msn but have never tried to stop it as thought have nothing to hide and will make him trust me. He checks my phone has gone through my bills to check a number of an old male friend from uni who i have broken contact with as he didn’t like it.

I can go on and on but really need help. I want o make this work form my parents sake. I don’t know if i love him or not.. I can sit there and tears coming to my eyes all the time. I know i’m not happy and the only thing keeping me going is my job.

What can i do to make it work?? Am i in the wrong. I’m not perfect I have made mistakes in this relaionship but have taken on a lot too. Supporting, helping him look for a job. Help him settle here. I feel I haven’t got anything back.

Lived with his sarcastic comments the worse ones being ‘chehray pe nahoosat hai’ etc etc.

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maybe its time to give as good as he gives....maybe then he will realise how good he has got it...i.e a wife to look after him!!!

Such a Na shukra!!!!...

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then again people from a diff background do think differently...and he is pakistani...and all of that does sound like typical male pakistani mentality.

Maybe its time he got a job!!!!!!!! hes got too much time on his hands!

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Stonecold exactly. I never did anything because thinking once he gets a jobs thing will improve. I put up with A LOT bcoz i know how depressing it is not having a job. Now he has got one so i'm thinking of seeing if there is a change or not and take action.

Thing general impression is very good. He is so different to people, my family. So polite and my dad loves him, everyone trusts him. I know my brothers and sisters can see through him tho.

I haven't really told my parents much as he has always threatened me that i can't discuss things with my parents. He always asks me do i tell stuff to my mum. Recently my mum who has been concerned about my gaunt face and my heath, told her a few things. She's not the kind to stir she has always told me adjust to him, the family bcoz being her family she really wants it to work. Now though with my health she has really come round and realised there is a problem and seeing through him.

He could be moody all week and the day need to go to my parents house would become the perfect husband and be really lovey dovey.

I have pretty much been very naive, submissive character and thought things would get better with time but realising now what a mess it is.

I don't mind being criticized bczo right now my perception of things is very clouded.

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you have obviously been a bit weak but nonetheless maybe its time for your attitude to change a bit. You obviously want it to work and working hard to do so..hes also being a typical pakistani man...maybe trying to break you...In any case maybe the best action is to tell him to straight up his act!

The more you stay quiet the more youl get walked over......

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Oh my God :-( thats a bad/sad situation.
I dont know how u are living with such a person. My experience is that such ppl never change, they make their and others life miserable.

Mark my words, he will never change, however and how much u do to please him, he will allways be unhappy with something.
You are right, u have given him so much and gotten nothing back. You need to decide for ur future and take a stand, decide if u will live with such a character all your life or do something about it.

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I haven't been but overlooked everything that he did to make things work. I don't like confrontations and that is my weakness. I just want peace of mind, chilled life. I am in a good position financially, have a lot that people in my 20s don't have. He has been enjoying the bebefits but i'm realising how ungrateful he is.

I can't tell him bcoz his eactions always scare me. He is very obnoxious and that scares me. I told him that i'm gonna tell my dad and he can sort things out. He packed his bag and said he'soff to pakistan and afterwards I shouldn't try anything like again should face the consequences.

I know he is trying to break me. He doesn't want me seeing my friends and on my bday he was like that person didn't text u. someone deleted u from fb etc. He is so interested wheni am having problems at work.

I have been brought up by people who are very genuine and sincere so it has taken me a while to realise but now i'm stuck. He has got so a lush life but still he comlains that i haven't cooked this or that for him. I have't taken him to a certain place.

Over the weekend he had the nerve to say one weekend i shud go to my parents so two of his friends can come over to stay bcoz they want to go out. We have a pretty nice flat at the moment.

My family have done so much for him in terms of treated him like a family. I feel like they are being taken for fools while all he does is act very polite.

He is always accusing me that I'm secretive. I'm a pisces and a very quiet person but don't keep stuff from him except family things. nothing major!!

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the only reason my parents wanted me to marry him because he is educated and coming from the family that they portray he would be a decent guy. He has a chance of goodlife here but than he wants to use that to settle his family there.

I know the people to blame for this are my parents for there wrong mentality where they don't realise how important comaptibility is.

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Saadi thanks for the reply. I am not writing all this for sympathy I just want to know how to sort this out. I am prepared to live with but is proving to be very difficult as my mental and phsical health really is suffering. I forget what I am saying especially at work.

He wants me to wear a hijab and change my clothes but like u said he will never be happy. I stayed in Pak for a few months, covered my head wore shalwar kameez, only went out with him when he wanted to. No demands for money or things but he still wasn't happy.

So even if i quit my job, cover my head, become a housewife he still will not be happy. I really don't want to be finanacially dependent on him becoz i have done that and he not the nicest person. All the time i stayed tere he didn't give me money, very rarely bought me phone card. Claim to be religious but only the parts that suit him. Such as most women will go to Hell. Most men who will go hell will be because of the women etc.

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He will not change and you need to put your foot down...

Tell him you will speak to his parents and your own parents. You said hes all nice when your parents are there....

Bottom line is dont suffer on your own. Coz its affecting your health!

Change your attitude towards him!

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Yzhiza, I can partily understand where u are coming from. I have lived abroad almost all my life and married to a guy of my choice in pakistan.
The thing is that at first it was a bit difficult to a common ground as he came to Europe. Things were different for him, he missed his family/friends/uni ect..
He didnt understand the language (german) but I knew that he is a good guy, no double standards, the rules that were for me were also for him.
He didnt say u have to pray where as he didnt. He prayed and I automatically started praying with him, he showed me the way in a manner that it didnt feel like I am being obliged to do so, just coz he wants me to do so. He corrects himself first and then I follow ect..

Why am I saying this, is that ok at first it was difficult but with time he adopted, he is religious in heart and soul but he is also a pratical man with wordly needs.
And I am happy that he is religious, this means that I can trust him, when he is way on his business trips, I dont need to worry at home, I know his morals are strong, because of his commitments to his religion.

Lets take away the religion for a minute. is he doing his duties as a husband, is he giving u comfort that u need, the financial support, the moral comforat that a man should.
Is he proven to be understanding as u are, (u do sound like one)Is he seeing your pain and your suffering, your attempt to make things work, is he acknowleging what ur doing for him. If we do look at it from relgion point of view, he is doing many things wrong, why does he wants u cover ur head where as he knew that u didnt do it before ur marriage, if u do so, are u doing it for Allah or to please him.

The guy is quite arrogant, he knows how to get u, egl packing and saying he is leaving, let him leave for a while.

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my wife used to cover her head but now doesnt...on occassions she doesnt.
Ive left it to her if she wants to or not!

Every person is going to account for their own actions!!!

Maybe your husband should look at his own actions first!

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The leaving thing has been a few times. I can't believe i stopped him.
From religious point of view he does pray occasionally and bcoz he doesn't I have become very irregular as well. Don't get me wrong not blaming him i am responsible for my own actions.

He has very biased knowledge when it comes to religion and is very judgemental of others.

If i was to cover i wud be for my husband not from my heart and for the correctreasons so u can imagine i'm wear. To be honest its not the solution anywayz.

I always cook what he wants even as I have totally different taste for food and half of the time he doesn't eat it. Saying he can't wait to go pak to have his mums food.

The day he landed here he spent all his time on the phone. He was ringing people in UK when he didn't have a job, at the point were we were living with our parents and he was telling his friends if they need help in nething he's here.

He has developed a habit of blaming me for everything. Llike when he got stressed for looking for a job he once said its normally the girls kismet or something that affects what he earns basically was my fault he cudn't get a job.

I think me active weak have escalated things.

He can be caring sometimes but sometimes is not enough. Wheni'm at work he does help out in the sense tidy up the place and once or twice even cooked. I'm grateful for his good qualities and always make sure appreciate him.

He has in the past blamed me looking down at him or ordering him about and that was when i become really like treating him like 'ur the man of the house'. Asking if i can buy this with my own money.

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If I've said it once, I'll say it again, do these guys (and their families) never think that what they are putting the DIL of the family through could quite easily happen to their won daughter when she gets married???

Although ma'sha allah my situation wasn't that bad, the odd thing here and there - I always used to say to hubby that your family should consider that they still have a daughter to marry, how would you feel if your sister had to go through this. Hubby never thought anything of my comment - recently, his sister got married and she is so unhappy since day 1 - in many of the things that I put up with. Since we got to know of her unhappiness, hubby has been so nice to me, and so has MIL who is staying with us right now.

Sorry - no real advice to give, but I'll be praying that Allah SWT makes your situation better and gives your hubby the hidayat to improve his ways and his treatment of you.

BTW can I ask - where in the UK are you?

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Continue to pray and be the best muslim wife that you can be - after all "A PIOUS wife is a man's best defence against shaitan"

You as a strong woman could quite easily turn him into a good religious insaan without even realising

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tell him you will quit your job and then he can provide for you like the "big man" he keeps on claiming to be!!!

A marriage only works if both parties consider each other equal...not when one party considers the other subserviant!!!

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no i can't.

He has the perception of being religious and me being the sinner.

So can't change him on that front. I do try but really no point. He goes on about me not praying at work, that if i really wanted to there would be no excues. When he might be home all day and not be regular about praying.

i can go on and on what he does but still no solution.

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well maybe you should start praying regularly...and maybe that will lead to a double effect of maybe him praying his salat...and maybe changin as a person too!

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if i threatened him with my job he would tell me to do it! He knows thats the only thinking that is making me stay independent. I earn a lot more than him. For him being the only provider he would just cut back it would be the perfect way to make him realise but i will suffer more than him in that situation. I have thought about this seriously for a while now

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I see no other option for you than to confront him headon...or get parents involved!!!