March Parade; Halted Tradition to be Resumed, finally!

http://www.dawn.com/2005/02/24/nat18.htm

Yes, to the sigh of relief of many Pakistanis who used to wait all year round for the 23 March holiday to wake up at 7:00am and get glued to the TV or rush to the Constitution Avenue Islamabad to watch our beloved military come out on the roads and in open skies with all 3 services chiefs and president present, the Pakistan Day Parade traditionally held every year except for the the past 2 with the last having been held in March 2002, will be held this year with full preparation.
The tradition is finally restored and let’s hope it never breaks again.
The reason for the cancellations last year and the year before that was the turbulence in the entire region and the govt didnt deem it fit for the military to pour out in the streets while it should be manning installations. perhaps unreasonable reason as the numbers involved in the parade aren’t even a fraction of the total but nevertheless a symbolic gesture.
A notable fact is that India’s version of the national parade is held on their Republic Day on 26 January and they did not discontinue their tradition in 2003 or 2004 and was also held this January.

A highlight of the events on 23 March is the fighter aircraft fly past in which traditionally the air chief leads the formation of the F-16s and then after landing arrives at the venue. in 2002 it was lead by ACM Mushaf Ali Mir Shaheed. let’s see if ACM Kaleem Saadat does it this time!

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Good thing :k:

I hope no body tries to kill Musharaf.

Mus’haf ali Mir :frowning:

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God forbid.
May Allah bless our leader! Ameen!

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On the risk of sounding stupid :o what's on agenda this year? Any new demo planned? Whats to look forward to?

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Yes Sabah,
Good question! Infact there are expected to be a lot of new things that could be on display and ppl are dying to see them grumble pass the stands. for instance many hope and wonder if a JF-17, the new Pak-China fighter plane would make a unique appearance in a flyby...it would be a great surpise for the nation. the Al-Khalid tank was inducted into service and no public display at such scale has taken place so far due to skipping the evnt for 2 yrs. that would be indeed a great attraction and is expected to show. then we have had quite a few successful missiles...more excitement and anticipation.
during these 2 yrs there's been a lot of development and a lot of new equipment has been acquired, the navy got its Agosta submarines, but obvioulsy they wont be there in Isl...
Then one interesting thing will be the new variations of the Army uniform being introduced; some new dresses for particular terrain and duties, quite intereting and attractive camouflages and accessories have been added.
thats as far as equipment is concerned.
Regarding displays, well we can only wonder if theres someone with some inside info , spill out :D
there ought to be the SSG skydivers display and the cultural displays which are usual. perhaps there should be some new activities to create more excitement and refreshement. lets see how innovative these guys have been past few years...
people please follow with any ideas or info you may have...Thanks!

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Good news. Its been a while. But expecting a flyby by JF-17 is too much to ask for right now. May be next year inshaAllah.

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yes youre right pp,
it does sound a bit unlikely right now, but nevertheless, the anxious public hopes for the maximum.

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Haris how about an intro to all known things. Maybe a picture, along with information about tech used, areas of usage etc. Comparison to other similar foreign weapons?

Let me start,

**MBT 2000 ** http://www.pakistanidefence.com/PakArmy/AlKhaildMBT2000.html

Introduction
Al-Khalid is one of the newest and one of the most deadliest tanks in the world, its a result of the advanced technology available in the world today. It meets severe desert conditions, with high performance. It represents the ideal integration of firepower, mobility and protection. This tank is created In Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) Pakistan. Pilot production is underway since November 2000.

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Al-Khaild Tanks Unique Abilities
Al-Khalid is capable of targeting the enemy in the dark of night. It is the only tank that has the ability to auto-track the enemy’s tanks. Only French tanks have this capability. It is also as powerful as the German tank Leopard in terms of movement. The Al-Khalid tank’s performance is much better than the Russian T-90-S tank, since its designed extreme temperatures.

http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/leo2.htm

Al-Khalid & Arjun Tank
Al-Khalid is far more modern than India’s Arjun, which took 25 years to be developed and is still not completed. Pakistan already has an edge over India in an armed conflict, but after the addition of Al-Khalid, Pakistan would be invincible in a land war.

Now lets see Arjun MK1:
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The Government of India did think about making changing to the Republic Day Parade this year. The stated reason was sympathy for the tsunami victims, but there is an increasingly strong view, supported by many leading newspapers that public display of military prowess does not behove of a functioning democracy. There has been no serious opposition to this view yet. So, it is possible that over the next few years the stress would move from the military to culture, children, etc., which even now is a good component of the RD parade.

There was, I believe, a similar reasoning made for the removal of the mock-ups of the nuclear tests from major Pakistani cities

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good info Sabah

http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/fc1.asp

Some very good info from this website abt the JF-17 MultiRole Fighter aircraft, which if not this year then hopefully will decorate our skies by the next.
The plane is indeed a ginat leap for Pakistan. although the foregn reviews havent been very encouraging and the aircraft is not the top line fighter we are in need of, it is very much a good fighter plane good enough.

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The FC-1 in the export scheme and the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) designation JF-17, which stands for Joint Fighter-17. It is expected that the PAF will acquire 150 JF-17s to replace its F-7P/PG fleet
The FC-1/JF-17 aims the third-world countries to provide a low-cost replacement to the second-generation fighter including MiG-21/F-7, F-5 Tiger, and Mirage III

some more pictures of the JF-17 from

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Dimensions

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Take off

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The beautiful anks that'll be there; some nice pctures

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a T80 front

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AlKhalid front view

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The recent held third IDEAS exhibit IDEAS 2004 is meant to promote defense equipment exports and co-productions etc aswell as generating revenue for the coutry through selling the locally produced competitive weapons and weapons systems and equipment to friendly countries. and during the past several years ever since the IDEAS ahs started the locally weapon develoment programs have taken a boost too. and indeed there has been a lot of income through contrcats signed by a no. of countries who wish to acquire equipment produced here.
The Training Plane Super Mashak has already been delivered to KSA and the UAE. Saudis have been contemplating over the Al-Khalid for quite some time now.

(and lets not get to the talk of whether weapon production, promotion or sale is good or bad and how many hungry ppl could be fed with that money...everyone knows its the irony of life. guns are needed to protect your food at times...)

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Troops occupy playgrounds, parks, open spaces in Islamabad

PREPARING for the up-coming Pakistan Day parade, on 23 March, various formations of the armed forces have taken over available playgrounds, parks and open spaces in the federal capital with military gadgets and weaponry.

The green belts between G-6 and G-7 and F-9 and G-9 sectors in the capital city are these days looking like battlefields where dozens of tanks, missile-carriers, military trucks and other weaponry and hundreds of troops have been stationed. In the backdrop of Parliament House, the armed forces would march to celebrate Pakistan Day. “My school-going children would use to play cricket in the Lal Quarters ground being adjacent to home which has now been taken over by the military taking part in the 23rd March parade. My children are constantly requesting me to allow them to play in F-6 playgrounds which is unacceptable to me,” said Mohammad Ramzan, a resident of G-6.

Resultantly, the residents of Islamabad are facing problems these days. The main roads near the Blue Area and the Constitutional Avenue, the hubs of commercial and official activities, are being blocked again and again for the movement of the troops.

The city administration seems least bothered about the long queues at every traffic signal for the troops’ free movement. The anger among the commuters for blockade of roads for hours is unexplainable.

“For the last three years, Pakistan Day parade could not be held due to the effects of 9/11. Thanks God, the government has decided to hold the parade this year.

The nation should observe the day at all costs as 23rd March is a sign of national unity and solidarity. The concerned authorities should also take into account inconvenience caused to the general public due to massive troops movement and weaponry,” said Syeda Shazia, a college student.

The parade preparations have got hold of the entire capital, as traffic is blocked on roads around the parade venue. The traffic signals are turned off as and when there is any military movements and all roads are blocked. Even some commuters condemned the idea of shifting the parade from Racecourse Ground, Rawalpindi to in front of the Parliament House, Islamabad sometimes back.

“Even though Pakistan Day is about two weeks away, residents of the capital city have started experiencing long traffic jams as military hardware is being shifted to Islamabad without taking into consideration problems to be faced by the residents and commuters alike,” said Niyaz Ali, a resident of G-7 sector.

Under the plan, military personnel will undergo drills in a playground situated in the green belt of F-9 and G-9 sectors. Some residents of sector G-9 also expressed happiness and fears of presence of military personnel in their area. As some were happy to see young valiant soldiers clad in their crisp uniforms boasting their glittering medals, some feared level of security in the area.

“Every effort should be made to celebrate 23rd March but not at the expense of the public inconvenience. Unfortunately, in present times, it has become a mere holiday when one can stay an hour or two longer in bed. For most of us it passes off without so much as a thought regarding the importance of this day. As time passes, the necessity of highlighting the importance of this momentous and vital day gets more significant,” said Nadeem Iqbal, a commuter.

Interestingly, there is a sector H-11 allocated for holding of the parade on such occasions in the master plan of the federal capital. Being adjacent to a dumping site, the sector has not been developed by the CDA for unknown reasons. Hence, there seems a remote possibility that the parade will ever be shifted to Sector H-11, even if it is developed sometime in future.

—Mohammad Saleem Shahid

http://www.pakobserver.net/200503/02/news/islamabad08.asp

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I used to go to the 23rd MArch parade every year back in the days when it was held at the Race Course ground in Pindi. I remember when we acquired the F-16s and a solo F-16 flew right above us out of nowhere (about 100 ft above the ground) and then disappeared into the blue with a vertical maneuver. It left all of us including the commentator in awe.

I heard the rehearsals are already taking place for this years parade. I know a few ppl that will be attending the parade but no pictures. Btw, not all of our missiles will be on display hehe :>

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Been there only once, wish I could see more of the defense aspect. Rock on

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i wish i could attend it...
the aircraft flying by leaves you awestruck! the noise and thunder, wow!

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Watching aircrafts fly overhead is a great sight but only once in a while

when do have to listen to their roar and thunder day in and day out … than it becomes a pain in the neck

My family lives next door to PAF Base Mushaf, Sargodha and we look forward to the day when there is a stand down at the base and no flying takes place

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:hehe:
i understand SP,
but i envy you really, you must be getting to watch all aircraft roll over everyday, the F16s are at Sargodha too! but i guess all the time is a bit too much.
are you at the base or outside?

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http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/mar-2005/14/nationalnews3.php

Full-dress rehearsal of Pak Day Parade on March 20

RAWALPINDI (APP) - Full dress rehearsal of Pakistan Day Parade will be held on March 20 (Sunday).
Invitation is open for the general public particularly for children of Rawalpindi, Islamabad schools and colleges.
All those schools desirous to witness the full dress rehearsal are requested to contact on these telephone numbers for co-ordination, 561-35697/ 561-35698/ 561-117 and 9271933.
General public is also requested to bring their national identity card along with them for identification purpose.
Third rehearsal of Pakistan Day Parade held
Meanwhile, the third rehearsal of the Pakistan Day Parade was held at Shahrah-e-Quaid Azam here Sunday.
Organisers had made special traffic arrangements on this occasion to facilitate the commuters.
Marching and mechanised columns of Pakistan Army, Navy, PAF, Contingents of Pakistan Rangers (Sindh), Special Services Group, Mujahid Force, Punjab and Balochistan Police, Boy Scouts, fighting aircraft of the PAF, helicopters of Army aviation participated in the rehearsal.
Paratroopers of Special Service Group made free fall jump from a height of 10,000 feet to a thunderous applause of thousands of spectators who had gathered all along the Shahrah-e-Quaid Azam.
F-16, K-8 and T-37 aircraft of the PAF also exhibited their manoeuvres. Senior officers of the armed forces witnessed the rehearsal.
Meanwhile, the fourth rehearsal of Pakistan Day Parade will be held on March 15 (Tuesday) at Shahrah-e-Quaid Azam.
Shahra-e-Quaid Azam between Khayaban-e-Chowk to Parade venue will remain closed between 6:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.
Crossing over Khayaban Chowk and Qalsum Plaza will be allowed soon after the columns have passed these points.
Traffic will be restricted partially on Constitution Avenue in between Radio Pakistan chowk to Secretariat Chowk. Eastern side of Constitution Avenue will only be used only for movements to and from the main building located on the Constitution Avenue.
Parliament Lodges road will not be thoroughfare, only the residents will be allowed to use this road.

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SSG Commandos double march at the parade veune during rehearsal few days ago.

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Army skydivers

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the AlKhalid

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PAF T-37s

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helijumpers

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Piffers in parade

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the Navy parade

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guys is anyone lucky enough to be attending it on Wednesday? please let us know and do post some pictures or atleast some details of the event. :k: