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/\ ha ha. Good going, Jaanwar.
Am I incredibly principled or incredibly naive for having said NO to some similar prospects? 
I would say Incredibly Admirable Sir !
an orignal breed indeed 
so yo umean there are no rich girls on GS :D
Anybody's guess really......:D
Could you elaborate that a bit perhaps? Being principled or naive again depends on the specifics of the circumstances.
And Is it safe to assume you’re a guy?
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/\ I wouldn't act holier than thou. But I had the option to * dig gold * through marriage, as a couple of rishtas I was introduced to in the recent past, belonged to the highest strata in Pakistan.To elaborate a bit more, both families didn't have any sons. They had very well reputed business names and political statuses. A cousin or two as elected representatives, an uncle or two at ministerial level and a family legacy of holding positions next only to the President, PM and Army chief.
…and you said no because?? Yes, you’re incredibly naive. :halo:
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^ my fear here, initiator, is that SU could be right on this. What exactly was your rationale?
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Jaanwar, his rationale is as usual about him being a man of principle 
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maybe they wanted a ghar damaad and initiator being a man of principle was averse to that 
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Personally speaking, if I were a man of principle, I most probably would not have been throwing it around in public. So I hope that is not the case here.
Lets just see what his reasons were.
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^ Ouch. That was too too blunt dude.
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there goes my thread 
Que Sera Sera…:hinna:
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^ if you are assuming that his rationale was solely being a man of principle, then perhaps yes that could be a bit blunt.
He could have several other reasons as well. For instance, I'd rather be a loner all my life than to marry someone from a political family - but then again, thats just me.
Another possible reason could be financial compatibility, I dont belong to the highest strata and hence would not have been comfortable marrying someone from a very rich family. There can be several reasons I believe.
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at the end of the day ...all those reasons do come under "principles"
and everyone has their own set of principles !
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Jaanwar, we are meant to be 
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*tuning into Episode 2 * 
I will have to disagree with you. By that definition everybody in Pakistan Police will qualify for being a man of principle. Saving yourself from getting into a very uncomfortable and disgraceful situation is human instinct, not a set of moral principles.
How many men do you think will be willing to marry those top strata women or into those families? Not many I would say. And those who would be willing to jump into such situations for the sake of money and power without considering their cost, I mentioned them in my first reply to your thread, and I said they would be rare.
I know SU, and it feels like I always have known
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Holy .... I didn't think it would turn into this.
First off, I only elaborated because I was asked to. Unfortunately, abstract ideas/ideals do not appeal to many as reading between the lines is usually difficult. Second off, though unfortunately I got carried away with making some of it public, I did try to hide some (no names, and this is just an online forum). Though I regret it partly.
The emphasis of the argument was not to stress how principled I am. it is just that money does not excite me as a reason to live for. Whether or not we realize it or not, money does get factored in when seeking rishtas (Dowry, rich/established family, better job/career, status etc). The order of precedence of the qualities you look for in a person. however, should not START with money. A person should be judged for the finer things in their PERSONALITY, the very attributes that are in their control and reflect their constant personal effort to be better. Money should be at the trailing end of the list. To say the least, they were good people, but the compatibility looked for in a relationship was not there.
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initiator - I do not disagree with you on what you just said, in fact that my my whole point. A women is relatively more insecure and it is a norm and makes more sense when she seeks a financially and otherwise stable man. Men, on the other hand, are far less worried about these factors. There are very few who would dive into a marriage for the sake of money and/or power.
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/\ Unfortunately, I have seen a lot of that happening (now),
Though you and I think it shouldn't be like that. The spectrum of the problem, however, is not limited to what the men think. In many case, their families are more interested in seeking a status upgrade of some sort, specially when their sons are good looking, educated etc. In addition, many young men I have talked to stressed (with varying degrees of emphasis) the importance of money/status when seeking a rishta.
I noticed a few funny things while visiting Pakistan. The aunties, while discussing rishtas, mostly start with how rich (or not) the girl's/guy's family is. You pick up a newspaper with rishta ads, and usually the first cpl of words are ... "Grade 22 officer's only son/daughter", "Established businessman's beautiful daughter", "Foreign qualified (MBA) son of retired general" ..etc etc
PEOPLE, do not make ME the subject of discussion here. It's the ideas we shall talk about.