Malaysia deports Saudi journalist accused of insulting prophet

Now he faces certain death for sure.

Malaysia deports Saudi journalist accused of insulting prophet

Hamza Kashgari fled to Malaysia after calls for death penalty in response to Twitter comment about Muhammad

Malaysia has deported a Saudi journalist accused of insulting the prophet Muhammad on Twitter, despite claims by rights groups that he could face the death penalty in Saudi Arabia.

Hamza Kashgari, 23, a newspaper columnist, tweeted doubts about Muhammad on the prophet’s birthday last weekend. After death threats, he fled to Malaysia on Tuesday and was detained at Kuala Lumpur airport while trying to leave on Thursday. Malaysian police said Kashgari was handed over to Saudi officials and flown back on Sunday morning, with flight arrangements handled by the Saudi authorities.

Malaysia and Saudi Arabia do not share a formal extradition treaty, but do have close ties as fellow Muslim countries. The Malaysian interior minister, Hishammuddin Hussein, said in a statement that Kashgari’s deportation was due to a common agreement.

“Malaysia had a long-standing arrangement by which individuals wanted by one country are extradited when detained by the other, and [Kashgari] will be repatriated under this agreement,” the statement read. “The nature of the charges against the individual in this case are a matter for the Saudi Arabian authorities.”

Kashgari had tweeted about Muhammad last week: “I have loved things about you and I have hated things about you, and there is a lot I don’t understand about you. I will not pray for you.” He deleted the tweet and apologised, but it attracted more than 30,000 responses, including death threats that spread from Twitter to YouTube and Facebook. Saudi clerics called him an apostate, and a Facebook page demanded his execution. Apostasy, abandonment or renunciation of faith, is a crime punishable by death in Saudi Arabia.

“Saudi clerics have already made up their mind that Kashgari is an apostate who must face punishment,” said Christoph Wilcke, senior Middle East researcher at Human Rights Watch. “The Malaysian government should not be complicit in sealing Kashgari’s fate by sending him back.”

A lawyer for Kashgari called the deportation unlawful and said his counsel had not been informed that he was to be sent back to Saudi Arabia.

Phil Robertson of Human Rights Watch said Malaysia’s actions set an all new low. “If Kashgari faces execution back in Saudi Arabia, the Malaysian government will have blood on its hands. The Malaysian government engaged in the most crass form of bait and switch, secretly sending Kashgari back, claiming the return is based on a long-standing understanding between Malaysia and Saudi Arabia, despite the fact that there is no bilateral extradition treaty between the two. When seeking a seat on the UN human rights council, the Malaysian government pledged it would abide by international human rights treaties, but from the day they took their seat they have walked away from that pledge.”

A lawyer for Kashgari said that he had obtained a court order preventing his client’s deportation but had been stopped by authorities from serving it.

Fadiah Nadwa Fikri told the Malaysian Star: “When we tried to serve the order at the Kuala Lumpur international airport, an immigration officer there confirmed Kashgari had been deported. This is in contempt of court and a violation of human rights.” He added that Kashgari had been denied access to his lawyers since his arrest on Thursday.

Kashgari said in an interview that he was a “scapegoat for a larger conflict” over his comments, Reuters reported. Amnesty International labelled Kashgari a prisoner of conscience and called for his release.

Two weeks ago Saudi Arabia’s Grand Mufti Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh called on Muslims to avoid Twitter as it “invited [people] to throw charges between them, and to lie in a manner that brings fame to some”, the Jerusalem Post reported.

Saudi Arabia has the third highest number of Twitter users in the Arab region, according to a social media report by the Dubai School of Government. However, those users comprise 0.5% of the nation’s overall population of 27 million.

In January, California-based Twitter said it would censor tweets in certain countries, fuelling debate over freedom of speech on the internet. Thailand, where strict censorship rules already apply, was the first nation to publicly approve of Twitter’s decision. In Malaysia, police have used Twitter and other social media to try to warn activists against rallying in support of the opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim. In Indonesia, a government minister announced last week that people tweeting in violation of local law – relating to pornography, gambling, threats, fraud and blasphemy – could face seven to 12 years in jail, the Jakarta Globe reported.

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Action. Reaction.
Statement. Consequences.
You reap what sow.

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Why did he go to Malaysia? Could've survived if he went to Europe.

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No one deserves to die for saying something. We dont live in middle ages...oh wait he is Saudi.

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According to you. That doesn't mean that is the final truth. To quote a US Supreme Court Justice "Freedom of Speech doesn't allow you to yell fire in a crowded movie theater".

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^^^ That was based on the question of harm (stampede). What harm was caused by his tweets? The legality of issue must be measured by harm it casued to others or the society. I seen none in this case.

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disgusting , dangerous world ,even gods need protection of law to upheld his respect ?

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If I recall correctly the decision was based on the notion of freedom of speech being limitless and the Supreme Court justice stated that freedom of speech had limits. Harm was one of those limits. As for this case how are in any position to judge if it caused harm or not? After all I doubt it causes you much harm when people deny the holocaust, but it will cause harm to those who survived the injustice. Harm is an subjective principle and you nor I are in any position to state it did not cause harm.

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Dare denying the holocaust in so-called enlighten modern Western countries.

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He apologised and retracted - let him go.

He loved things about Muhammad (SAW) - that is good, he said that he hated things about him and didn't understand things about him, so can it be he merely hated those things that he didn't understand about him? And he will not pray for him, is a statement without realisation, Muhammad (SAW) has billions of people asking Allah (SWT) to send His blessing on him (SAW) because they understand that they need him (The Mercy of Allah (SWT)) to return their salutations and counter the blessings with his intercession by leave of Allah (SWT).

What if you clear his misunderstandings - then perhaps he will love him ...

Killing him after his apology would be like punishing the repentant. If we so love the Rahma-tu-lAalameen (SAW) then we should show mercy when the opportunity presents itself to us.

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The harm of a Muslim defaming the dear prophet Muhammad (SAW) who is loved by other Muslims more than we love ourselves is great. We should take offense otherwise we will allow for people to mock openly, this will gradually lead to him (SAW) being treated like an ordinary man, and then that will lead to his teachings and mission being treated like a subject at the back of weekend magazine rather than being the "codec for life". The beginning of the decline of our religion is to mock the giants who brought it to us. (Note: giant - meaning great, sublime individuals)

Alas ...it is better to show patience when ignorance rears its head and use the opportunity to shine good light on his (SAW) character.

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1) Holocaust denial isn't illegal in the US (its only illegal in some EU countries). 2) Even in places where its illegal max punishment is jail time & no one to my knowledge has lost his/her head (which is what is likely to happen to this guy). 3) As I sated, crime must equal punishment (for example GS hasn't chopped your head off for using profanity). 4) Just b/c someone questions established religious dogma doesn't mean they should die.

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Peace Shamraz Khan

Questioning religious dogma is fine - we should go and seek answers to our private questions in private with those who are in knowledge, we should go seeking with the prepared mind to accept their answers hoping them to be sufficient for our satisfaction ... the moment we retort and broadcast our "questions" to the world - we are no longer "just" asking questions ... we are sowing our seeds of doubt in others (doing anti-dawah) and furthermore doing so when our own knowledge in that matter is incomplete.

Now think about being partly responsible for creating unrest in a society. Say a person starts to talk ill of a religious leader, then it gives another the confidence to start and then another and after a while the talk becomes sour and grows added with lies and slander it becomes something that this new group now considers the religious leader a big threat and then they go out of their way with their newly trained minds to disgrace this religious leader, people on the other side retaliate with anger most likely and then somewhere down the line it creates bloodshed and ongoing unrest ...

Fitnah is what we would call a "cancer to society" and just like in cancer treatment "fitnah" is best stopped in the bud, otherwise it will prop up everywhere. Fitnah/Fassad is worse than a single murder - not my words - they are words of the Qur'an.

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  1. Good to know that you accept that freedom of speech has limit and their are consequences for ones actions. Now can you accept this in the case of the Saudi Journalist? If you are stupid enough to do so while in Saudi you deserve everything you get. I have no sympathy for stupidity.

  2. Who are you state that the punishment is not equal the crime when the trial hasn't happened yet? (for example...nah you are right GS mods are just like the Saudi Court system)

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Freedom of speech should have limitations, but this man is going to die for what he said. That is zealotry and should not be supported by anyone. If someone insults the Jews or denies the holocaust, they are outcast but not killed. That's the difference.

When Muslims act like this over any slight on the prophet or Islam, we only reinforce the image that other religions have of us. When things like this make you angry, complain to the appropriate people, but leave it at that. I know the majority of Muslims are evenly tempered, but we must also discourage the violent fanatics who soil the reputation of the entire group.

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There's no such thing as blasphemy law in Islam. This law was first initiated in British India to protect minorities by British government. But now mullah clerics have hijacked it to protect majorities. How unfortunate.

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poor soul is born at wrong place and among wrong people
message is soudis are living in middle ages

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beware , you may be deported for .....

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  1. Abstract concepts do not have limitations, IMO. Saudi or anywhere else, its matter of human right and individual freedom, which I agree religiously pious Saudi do not allowed.

As for the punishment part, you should’ve notice that its an conditional assumption based on the use of word “likely”.

And this: Mullahs won’t be happy until he is dead.

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Peace psyah,

Tell me this: Why does God who supposedly controls everything in the universe is so petty that he cares about things like who is tweeting about who/what? Btw, our existence in the universe on a galactic scale are totally insignificant.