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Drones have been effective to create anger in tribal area, which is providing easy recruitment facilities to Taleban.
One solution could be to reduce the chances of civilians being killed in these attacks. But to altogether scrape them could take away a very effective tool in elimination of Pakistan's enemies.
People in tribal area are even more angry on Taliban. So much so that they have created militias to fight them oof.
Re: malala k malal main doobay log !
I am praying for Malala
She is a hope
Hope of education for my children
Not these students of Madaris
Kids always misused .
Most madaris are a business of Mulla
Many of them always used for political gains of Mulla
Most of them are used to create or support 'Firqa Bazi'
Only 1% of those can be narrated better
And small madaris
Many complaints there about Mulla's .......
Allah hamain maaf karday
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I am praying for Malala She is a hope Hope of education for my children Not these students of Madaris Kids always misused . Most madaris are a business of Mulla Many of them always used for political gains of Mulla Most of them are used to create or support 'Firqa Bazi' Only 1% of those can be narrated better And small madaris Many complaints there about Mulla's ....... Allah hamain maaf karday
Any statistical backing for this 1%? We have also seen products like corrupt politicians educated from bigger and brighter universities, who don't know abc of their religion.
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As if these tribal people accept drones as flowers showering of the sky 
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Drones have been effective to create anger in tribal area, which is providing easy recruitment facilities to Taleban. Jab kisi ka apna na-haq maara jata hai, phir uss main ache bure ki tameez nahin rehti... you probably know the psyche of tribal people for getting revenge.
Isn’t this an assumptive but ridiculously funny statement? Drones is creating anger and providing easy recruitment facilities for Taliban!!! ...
So, how about Taliban killing innocent Pakistanis, including men, women and children? From your above statement, it must be also true that killing and maiming innocent civilians, all intentionally done by Taliban, not in hundreds (as the case is with Drones and that also unintentionally) but in 10s of thousands, must be creating anger (against Taliban) and providing easy recruit for Americans and Pakistan army against Taliban?
Well, since drones killed few hundred innocents by mistake unintentionally, they can be excused ... especially when Drones are killing enemy of those innocents (enemy because whom drones are killing are intentionally killing those innocents) and helping eradicate parasites who are killing innocent Pakistanis.
Now just imagine that if drones had not killed those couple of thousand most wanted terrorists, mostly those who were leading the killing campaign of innocent Pakistanis, then how many more innocent Pakistanis these terrorists would have killed ... obviously more than few hundred that got killed accidently by drones ... most likely, terrorists who got killed by drones would have intentionally killed 10s of thousands more civilians. That means drones saved lives of 10,000 innocent tribal civilians by killing those few thousands terrorists.
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Telegraph article is very important as it shows bias of people in love of terrorists:
From your quoted report, drones killed 2299 out of that only 775 were civilians (including 168 children) that means rest … or 1524 were terrorists … hmmm … Fact is that the report is dishonestly biased as it quotes maybe earlier figures but most important is that it seems reporter took maximum casualties when civilians is concerned and minimum total casualties making number of terrorists killed look lower.
Actual latest report by ‘The Bureau of Investigative Journalism’ says that … From 2004 to Oct 2012:
Total (independently) reported killed by drone: 2562 (min) to 3325 (max)
Total (independently) reported civilians killed: 474 (min) to 881 (max)
Out of those civilians who got killed, 176 were reported as children.
So, one reporting honestly would quote both minimum and maximum figures. A bias but honest reporter would quote one figure (that portrays his liking most) and that would be either minimum or maximum figure for both. But a dishonest reporter would take minimum figure for one and maximum figure for other to skew the figures to what he likes maximum. Daily Telegraph reporter did the same, showed dishonestly. *.
Here is actual (and latest) article with figures, not by those quoting ‘The Bureau of Investigative journalism’ but from ‘The Bureau of Investigative journalism’ website itself. The article I quoted in one of my earlier post too when replying to ‘hareem01’.
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/579491-malala-yousufzai-attacked-18.html#post9190372
Now, here is the article showing actual figures that was quoted by ‘The Bureau of Investigative journalism’ who disputed the figure quoted by CIA (CIA claims that only 50 civilians got killed by drone).
**Article on drone strike in Pakistan:
Source: The bureau of investigative journalism.
A picture of war: the CIA’s drone strikes in Pakistan: TBIJ
A picture of war: the CIA’s drone strikes in Pakistan
The Bureau has been recording every reported CIA drone strike in Pakistan. The result is our extensive database which details every known attack and the numbers killed in a covert war that has been bitterly fought since 2004.
Our detailed analysis has found that 344 strikes have killed between 2,562 and 3,325. This number includes at least 474 civilians – though the true figure maybe as high as 881.
So just what do we know? Rather than ask you to sift through thousands of lines of data, we’ve done the hard work for you – and these are the facts we’ve found:
Note: CIA claims 50 civilian death … but Bureau of Investigative Journalism claims around 474 (Min) to 881 (Max) civilians killed in drone strikes]
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May I say that Drone attack is the coward way out of the problem. I am not sure if its even in line with the International Humanitarian Law and/or Geneva Convention.
Nevertheless, as I said earlier - anger against drone attacks cannot be used as a justification, or used as a comparison of evil on both sides, when it comes to attack on Malala
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Isn’t this an assumptive but ridiculously funny statement? Drones is creating anger and providing easy recruitment facilities for Taliban!!! ...
So, how about Taliban killing innocent Pakistanis, including men, women and children? From your above statement, it must be also true that killing and maiming innocent civilians, all intentionally done by Taliban, not in hundreds (as the case is with Drones and that also unintentionally) but in 10s of thousands, must be creating anger (against Taliban) and providing easy recruit for Americans and Pakistan army against Taliban?
Well, since drones killed few hundred innocents by mistake unintentionally, they can be excused ... especially when Drones are killing enemy of those innocents (enemy because whom drones are killing are intentionally killing those innocents) and helping eradicate parasites who are killing innocent Pakistanis.
Now just imagine that if drones had not killed those couple of thousand most wanted terrorists, mostly those who were leading the killing campaign of innocent Pakistanis, then how many more innocent Pakistanis these terrorists would have killed ... obviously more than few hundred that got killed accidently by drones ... most likely, terrorists who got killed by drones would have intentionally killed 10s of thousands more civilians. That means drones saved lives of 10,000 innocent tribal civilians by killing those few thousands terrorists.
Calling statements not meeting your point view ridiculous doesn't change ground facts. Its a fact that Taliban sympathies will be increasing until civil society comes with a proper response like in Malala case. When someone's son/brother/father/ any other dear relative dies of these drones (say 10% of total casualties), these 10% won't be ready to listen long sermons in support of Uncle SAM.
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I am praying for Malala She is a hope Hope of education for my children Not these students of Madaris Kids always misused . Most madaris are a business of Mulla Many of them always used for political gains of Mulla Most of them are used to create or support 'Firqa Bazi' Only 1% of those can be narrated better And small madaris Many complaints there about Mulla's ....... ** **Allah hamain maaf karday
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bay bunyaad or idher udher ki sun ker itnee batain ker k Allah waqyee app ko muaaf ker day
i m also student of madersa.. or i know madairsh and thiers students.. koi buisness nahi ho raha
hum subah 8 bajay jatay hain or quran tafseer hades fiqah or deene kutub perh ker gher wapus ajtay hain
madaris main pakistan or pakistan ki awaam k ley jitnee duaain mangee jatee hain ..utnee to app log bhi nahi mangtay
or bat kertay hain madaris ki or misuse
SIR ..itna jhoot bolain jis ka hisaab day sakain ..kis madrasa main app gaye hain ?
zara naam batain
madaris Allah ka gher hain .. app log itnay moun bhar bhar ker jo baatain kertay hain ...kabhi yeh bhi sooch liya kerain k kis ki baat ker rahay hain
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Re: malala k malal main doobay log !
May I say that Drone attack is the coward way out of the problem. I am not sure if its even in line with the International Humanitarian Law and/or Geneva Convention.
Nevertheless, as I said earlier - anger against drone attacks cannot be used as a justification, or used as a comparison of evil on both sides, when it comes to attack on Malala
No one is justifying attack on Malala here. Its the justification of drone attacks which is creating hatred in Pakistan's civil society which is parallel to hatred against Taleban and cannot be ignored.
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ISLAMABAD: Interior Minister Rehman Malik said Wednesday that the majority of those killed in drone attacks were innocent people.
According to Malik, only 20 percent of those killed in drone attacks were militants while the rest were innocent people.
Speaking to the media outside Parliament, Malik said there were 336 drone attacks conducted in Pakistan in which 2,300 people have been killed. He added that 96 cross border attacks were launched from Afghanistan.
When asked about an operation in North Waziristan, Malik claimed that no statements were made regarding this matter.
Re: malala k malal main doobay log !
Its the justification of drone attacks which is creating hatred in Pakistan's civil society which is parallel to hatred against Taleban and cannot be ignored.
I agree. There is not justification of Drone attacks. If you want to kill terrorists, go and chase them and kill them one on one, but dont bomb the whole village of 200 people to kill 20 terrorists.
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When RM says anything, the opponent parties become happy because this guy has the credibility of an earth worm. His support, for most of the time, weakness the stance rather then stregthing it 
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When RM says anything, the opponent parties become happy because this guy has the credibility of an earth worm. His support, for most of the time, weakness the stance rather then stregthing it :D
but daktar sahaab is home minister of pakistan:D
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but daktar sahaab is home minister of pakistan:D
Hmaray gunaahon kee saza main.
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Because Malala belongs to very good family , and her father has shchool chain in KPK therefore her issue is visible to everyone. There are many innocent people who were not killed by terrorist but unjust/illegal drone strike. I believe they are not only violating air space but also laws of the land. and two wrong can not make one right.
Re: malala k malal main doobay log !
May I say that Drone attack is the coward way out of the problem. I am not sure if its even in line with the International Humanitarian Law and/or Geneva Convention.
Nevertheless, as I said earlier - anger against drone attacks cannot be used as a justification, or used as a comparison of evil on both sides, when it comes to attack on Malala
Brother, Drone attacks is not coward way out of problem, it is technologically advance though expensive way to deal with parasites hiding in mountains. Your statement is just like saying, to kill rabies infected dogs using gun (or any weapon) is cowardly way of killing them.
Pakistan only has one way, and that is to send people on ground risking their lives to kill these ‘Taliban’ parasites. Even if Pakistan had drones they could not have afforded to use them [unless USA would have given them charity (Bheek) to use them], as it takes thousands of dollars in fuel to fly them and millions of dollars per strike as cost of missiles drone uses. That means, Pakistan sacrificing their ‘soldiers’ and spending ‘money Pakistan do not have’ to get rid of parasites on mountains, or let those parasites kill 100s of innocent Pakistanis each day.
Fortunately, Americans with their technologically advanced weapon and money is helping Pakistan save not only lives of Pakistani soldiers (who would have sacrificed their lives killing parasites on mountains) but 1000s of innocent Pakistani civilians who would have become victims of these parasites.
Actually, all is happening with consent of Pakistan army and Pakistan government knowing their own resource restraints, so drone strikes are not violation of Pakistan sovereignty, rather a help that anyone takes from outside to get rid of parasites infecting their home.
Till now, Pakistan only asked Americans to get rid of these rabies infected Taliban parasites from tribal areas, as these areas are not manned by Pakistan police nor Pakistani laws exist there. In effect, these areas are not constitutionally part of Pakistan, because Pakistani constitution is not applicable in these areas. Anyhow, if rabies infected Taliban parasites get widely spread in settled areas too, it is possible that Pakistan might ask Americans to get rid of these parasites from settled areas too.
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^Drones are cheapest way to attack…
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exactly two wrongs do not make a right, just because drone attacks are not acceptable that does not give Taliban the right to attack innocent Pakistanis. more Pakistanis have died at the hands of these goons than drone attacks. Both are vile and despicable.