Re: Majority of Pakistanis term Musharraf an ideal leader.
assumptions are never good, we must always be *fair_&_balanced *
assumptions leading to accusations :nono:
Thanks! 
purane yaar ke haathon bhi hum yun huye ruswaā¦
True!
:k:
Re: Majority of Pakistanis term Musharraf an ideal leader.
come on haris, dont act so innocent here, ive been warned for saying busharraf when other ppl get away with whatever they use for the opposition... you are biased when it comes to president moosh, everyone can see it, only a few will say it...
Re: Majority of Pakistanis term Musharraf an ideal leader.
Yes. They are indeed. :k:
God Bless President Musharaf and his govt. for the unprecedented economic growth.
God Bless Pakstan. 
Re: Majority of Pakistanis term Musharraf an ideal leader.
and it is counterbalanced by FOL who is biased against musharraf. the question is does that stop them from doign their job, and who is teh guy watchign tehri moves, ehsan..and I think he has made his views pretty clear on Musharraf.
so, where were we then?
But I never complained about them, they dont bother me when I say anything about Musharraf.. Its just the ones that are very biased when it comes to Musharraf. Also, as an advice, its annoying to see Aalsi's jhandaz in every post of his. Also, must haris also give a two word compliment post to every single post which praises Musharraf?
Re: Majority of Pakistanis term Musharraf an ideal leader.
Absolutely. Long live Musharraf - 5 more years is well deserved.
Re: Majority of Pakistanis term Musharraf an ideal leader.
First,
I donāt recall ever warning you for using the term ābusharrafā, yet!
** There are records available on the warnings.**
Though given the new recent notification about forum rules and their enforcement, such terms are offenses calling for warnings, itās mostly patience on the part of moderators that many posters continue to stay here and post inspite of the many posts they post daily that call for serious warnings as per forum rules which are stickied up for everyone to be familiar with.
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=185504
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=196318
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=265663
Anyone breaking the rules whether pro-govt or anti-govt gets or should get warnings, everyone ought to know that. Patience should never be pushed too far or taken advantage of.
I wonder why some people keep making a mockery out of themselves, damage their own standing and leave proof for everyone to judge whoās right, whoās wrong and whatās what in a blame game which they lose each time because āpeople in glass houses shouldnāt throw stonesā is a lesson they refuse to learnā¦!?
To put it simply. At least at the moment if not at all times, the various sorts of insults fired against pro-Govt, pro-Mush figures by anti-Govt posters is usually more than the insults fired against anti-Govt figures by pro-Govt posters.
** It is ALL recorded too. **
Second,
I am definitely biased about my personal opinions on Musharraf, **NOT **in my duties as a neutral moderator, which are strictly professional and have clearly nothing to do with my personal opinions. If someone canāt fathom the difference between the two or if someone thinks there canāt be a difference between the two, that someone might have issues with their own credibility, integrity and professional approach, NOT with my moderation. Regardless of what they think they feel or see and whether they say it or not!
Plus I donāt need to be told by anyone short of exemplary/constructive forum behavior or with little or no concern for rules, regulations, and positive conduct, all which damages a members standing, to point at my standing or conduct. It just doesnāt matter, because I am honest with my work. AlhamdoLillah.
Iāve worked hard for this forum and always keep a wall between my views and my duties as a moderator, and I can challenge anyone to prove with a complete picture, not one sided or ignorant biased versions, if I have ever been biased!
Exactly! And thanks :k:
Plus, if anyone has any such concerns about anyoneās conduct in the first place, while they totally forget their own conduct and words of wisdom and flowers that they shower and spread around in ever thread, every post, they should ask the mods, admins who they feel are more aligned to their views to learn if they too feel the same about that mods actions. And while theyāre at it, they should also ask them what they think about that respective memberās own conduct and forum behavior too.
If you mean they *ābotherā *you only when you post about who they appreciate but not when you post about Musharraf, it doesnāt make much of case for you, your ideology/argument here, or other mods/admins, nor against me. But Iām definitely sure thatās not the case with other mods/admins. The problem is only with the approach some members have.
And what do you mean āā¦just the ones that are very biasedā¦ā!?
Iām the one thatās very pro Musharraf in my *personal *views, are you trying to say that I ābotherā you when you post anything about Musharraf!? How could you fire such lies against me!?
Prove it where if ever I have ābotheredā you unfairly!? Be it regarding Musharraf or **anyone **else at all!?
If being warned, held accountable for misconduct or suffering a moderator action, receiving automated notifications etc due to breaking a rule ābothersā you, Iām afraid you should either get used to it as long as you donāt agree to comply or should be more realistic in your demands or preferences and not be ābotheredā because nobody cares what ābothersāyou.
Youāve made enough trouble and mockery of everything, the forum, the rules, the mod/admin team, me, anyone you disagree with, anything you oppose, and even yourself ever since you returned. Iāve always shown you enough regard and respect over the years and consider you a friend, but if you canāt respect me, and lie about me with no proof, Iād feel no shame in making your true picture public.
Because since you accuse me of *oppressing *you because of your new-found anti-Govt stance or hatred from Musharraf, Iād like to inform you and everyone that you werenāt exactly an exemplary member or poster even before, ever, not when you were proGovt, proMusharraf, not now, and thats unfortunate. Because even then, you always had a hard time controlling your insults, disregard for rules, your feelings of grandeur about your āIāll do whatever I want and nobody dare askā sort of attitude, lack of patience and respect for fellow members
No sympathies even if youāve just returned from a 3 month exile. Iād be more than glad to post more ācase studyā threads for everyone to judge what kind of a trouble maker some people are and how they make personal attacks on everyone and everything they disagree with and yet have the nerve to blame others and fire allegations against them.
If someoneās inconsiderate and in no control of their emotions or reactions, why should anyone else be cooperative, considerate or tolerant or showing restraint for them merely out of *hope *of getting some regard, cooperation or compliance for regulations or respect!?
Take a look at your own conduct for once and then comment on how *feel *you suffer at the hands of others.
Meanwhile, if the way some members post which is more often than not full of disregard for rules, hate for all those they oppose, name calling and insults, and yet they are still here, and nobody asks them to stop, or complains of being *irritated *or questions why they are acting that way, then certainly they have no right behaving like a spoiled brat because this is not their bedroom where things will happen as per their liking.
Every member has a right to say, do what they want, if rules are broken we come in, if their views, posts are not to oneās liking, one better grow up. Aalsi is in his full right to post all jhandas he wants, and I have all rights to make as many comments with as many words or phrases to compliment Musharraf, as a member, because I donāt recall anyone asking in the forum why Spock must bring his obsessions, hatred, biases into every thread, always post a curse or retort to name calling or defying rules in one way or another, derail threads and so on? So if you can be destructive and yet use your rights, those who are not destructive should be able to use their rights even better!
This
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=266292
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=265862
was also meant to clarify somethings before jumping to conclusions and firing allegations.
Iām sorry for my unusually harsh response, but being disappointed by the shallow approach of someone I respected and regarded and with my sincerity and hard work with honesty and neutrality here, I have faith in my fairness by Allahsā grace and I canāt take any attacks personal or professional on my integrity or credibility casually, itās serious for me, and I feel it has to be responded to seriously. Iām sensitive about it because Iām clean. AlhamdoLillah.
Re: Majority of Pakistanis term Musharraf an ideal leader.
Just 5 years? Shame on you, you should vouch for 10 more years.
Re: Majority of Pakistanis term Musharraf an ideal leader.
^^ captain saab, why are you so anti-musharraf?
what great leaders are sitting in the foray ready to take pakistan to the next level?
benazir ?
nawaz sharif ?
altaf hussain ?
please, Musharraf is not perfect but compared to these bozos, he is the lesser of two evils.....
Re: Majority of Pakistanis term Musharraf an ideal leader.
^^ captain saab, why are you so anti-musharraf?
Because he is not doing anything except for "ching ching $$$", what has he done to ensure that future government will be more accountable? what has he done to ensure that army will not remove any government? instead he has opened door for full army interference in politics. The so-called progress is all based on adhocism, the day Musharraf goes everything will be back to square one, this is not what real "developments" result in.
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Did you know existence of Musharraf before Oct 1999? What makes you think Pakistan can not have better person than Musharraf? Why can't we establish a system and give it some time to mature as well as nation get used to it?
Musharraf is nothing but a clown himself, everything is done with a phone call from Condi Rice. He has to wait for directions from outside to take one step. Even for Lal Masjid he had to hear from Chinese.