Majazi Khuda

MIAinVA · October 14, 2009, 7:32pm

Re: Majazi Khuda

I know chanda, its sad and scary.

chanda_kh · October 14, 2009, 7:34pm

Re: Majazi Khuda

very scary! tis the Islamic dark ages MIA...

Majazi_Khuda · October 14, 2009, 7:40pm

Allah said that to you?

Allah said that to an angel who brought it to Prophet, who later told sahaba, who memorized it and many many years after prophet’s death, decided to write it down and compile it.

Exactly the same way they did for hadees, in fact so much so that sahaba even remembered that which were the words of Nabi and which one of Allah (although both spoken to them by the same person, Prophet that is).

How comes one outcome of the similar effort is never questioned (compilation of Quran) while we are ready to ditch the other (compilation of hadees)

MIAinVA · October 14, 2009, 7:42pm

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^:smack:

cuz **Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) himself supervised and authenticated the written texts of the Qur’an.
**
P.S. Tum ko kuch pata wataa hai nahin, aisay hee sawal kar rahay ho, go do your research first.

chanda_kh · October 14, 2009, 7:45pm

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looks like he is going in circles.
the Quran was memorized AND written DURING Prophet (pbuh)'s life..it was sorted and compiled later.

Majazi_Khuda · October 14, 2009, 7:47pm

hahaha, I am sorry. I don’t want to sound rude but this is a news to me that Prophet was alive during the caliphate of Hazrat Umar and Usman when compilation was going on.

chanda_kh · October 14, 2009, 7:47pm

"It is We who have sent down the Qur'an and We watch over it." (15:9)

Majazi_Khuda · October 14, 2009, 7:48pm

Re: Majazi Khuda

Btw, for the kind of information of you two, Prophet did not know how to read or write so it would be impossible for him to supervised and authenticated the written text.

MIAinVA · October 14, 2009, 7:50pm

Re: Majazi Khuda

I didn't say compiled, but yes it was written down during Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)'s time (not in sorted order though, it was in the order revealed).

I'm repeating this, please do some research and not blindly follow what you've heard from others..... Islam is not a religion to be followed blindly.

MIAinVA · October 14, 2009, 7:52pm

Majazi… sigh… go read for yourself.

Source: Preservation and Authenticity of Holy Quran

Majazi_Khuda · October 14, 2009, 8:01pm

By research, I am sure you mean Google Search because that is what you did in your last post.

I am not going to challenge what you wrote but how did that nullify Bukhari and Muslim's authenticty. How did it occur to you after 1500 years that those books should not be trusted (but a google website should be trusted)

chanda_kh · October 14, 2009, 8:03pm

Re: Majazi Khuda

shudders
Islam means submission to the will of Allah. The meaning of this fundamental point is forgotten, and replaced by nodding yeses to imams..

MIAinVA · October 14, 2009, 8:06pm

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BHAI, I googled it cuz meri zabaan par tau tum yakeen kartay nahin, which you have proved above. At least ek Islamic site par tau karo gai na.

And you're missing the point....... proving Quran's authenticity was in response to your silly questions about how Quran was also compiled after Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) passed away and how can we trust that Allah said he was going to preserve it (Nauzubillah).

hareem01 · October 14, 2009, 8:07pm

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Majazi Khuda

Leave her and MinaVA alone man. You have explained enough.

Majazi_Khuda · October 14, 2009, 8:09pm

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hiding behind cute words and catchy phrases does not lower the significance of a teacher who can help us understand our responsibilities as a Muslim

funguy · October 14, 2009, 8:10pm

Re: Majazi Khuda

^ and hiding behind a teacher does?

chanda_kh · October 14, 2009, 8:11pm

Re: Majazi Khuda

writing history books basically have the same methodology. Researching and documenting references..this system hasnt changed for centuries...are you saying we have to believe everything ever written?? i dont think so. Our responsibility as MUSLIMS, is to believe in Allah, his word, and to trust HIM. The rest is all history.

TLK · October 14, 2009, 8:13pm

Hareem favors MK .. I need to know this guy better ..

Sorry Hareem, just kidding.

hareem01 · October 14, 2009, 8:17pm

lolz…

I don’t favour Mk and I actually dislike his nick but I agree with his explanation regarding the authencity of ahadith and I think he’s done good job so far.

Majazi_Khuda · October 14, 2009, 8:17pm

Re: Majazi Khuda

Thanks Hareem but I think we can carry on with this discussion. 178 posts and no one insulted or called anyone names. Only that fact makes this thread worthy of continuation.

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Our responsibility as MUSLIMS, is to believe in Allah, his word, and to trust HIM

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Chanda, how did you get this belief? Was it part of your genes when you were born, or did you develop the belief by reading and learning from others.