mahmood ghaznavi came 17 time to rob india. but still we read in our books that he was a hero etc etc
how can a looter be a hero?
just only breaking somnath mander he become hero from a looter?
can any one tell me logically?
I think pakistan shud not drag ghaznavi to its side, he is hero of afghanistan.
there was no agriculture in afghanistan, so afghan kings like ghaznavi, ghauri, abdali etc used to loot india to run their country.
mahmood broke statue for gold not islam.
mahomood is hero for afghans but we become happy like childs to call any one our hero who had damaged hindus.
re: mahmood ghaznavi a looter?
yeah you are right dear
but mohammed bin qasim also falls in this catigory.
he also loot away whole sindh in the name of only one alleged captive woman.......
no i dont agree with u, mohamad bin qasim adventure was 4 noble cause. he didnt came frm distant arabia just 4 loot. his mission was more expensive then he might hav gaind frm loot.
re: mahmood ghaznavi a looter?
how?
mahmood ghaznavi came 17 time to rob india. but still we read in our books that he was a hero etc etc how can a looter be a hero? just only breaking somnath mander he become hero from a looter? can any one tell me logically?
If you any sense in your heads,
Check the map from Ghazni to Somnath, see what is the distance between the two, if you have got any army knowledge ( which i highly doubt) then attacking Somnath was not one of the best ideas on the table. He could have gathered ten time more gold then from somnath by taking less risks.
But i totally Understand you calling him a looter and all your Raja and Maharaja cannot resist a looter,their armies falls against a mere looter.. shame on those raja and maha rajas and rajpoots who couldn't stop a army of looters.. who couldn't launch an attack on the state of Ghazni to kill or capture the looter...
re: mahmood ghaznavi a looter?
People are reading too much Indian literature! :-)
Mahmud gaznavi was afghan thats why he is calling him a mere looter.
that was due to repeated attacks from west which kept hindus in control otherwise weak muslims of india would have been perished.
attacks of ghaznavis, ghauris, durranis used to keep moral of indian muslims high.
No Mahmood Ghaznavi was a warrior saint first and foremost. His histories are too lond and varied to be posted in a long thread. However he was a highly educated statesman and warrior. his kingdom was originally formed from an amalgamation. Millitarily he was no differnt to Ghenghish khans mongols or the Osmanli turks. He did loot but in that era everyone looted everyone.
Hindu Rajahs invaded China and Burma not to mention thier raids on mahmoods own territory. Mahmoods first raids on India were punitive expeditions to counter the Indians. later he did loot thier holy sites like somnath. however unlike modern muslim rulers he did donate arge sums to the caliphate of Baghdad, he also distributed the wealth among his own people.
His only one BIG mistake was when his Pir Murshid gave him a shirt. this shirt was either the Pirs own or was one which belonged to Prophet Mohammed Salalaho-Alayhi-Wa-Aliyhe-Wassalam. Either way if Mohammed was ever to be in trouble he could pray using the kameez of the dervish and whatever misfortune happened it would be resolved. So When Mahmood was surounded in Somnath and could not get out he prayed for victory. Miraculous or not the Indians who outnumbered him fled.(somehow thier king had been shot out of his Elephant, typical) The legends have it that mahmood returned to the dervish but was not recieved well becuase the dervish told him he should not have prayed for just a victory.....if he had prayed that all hindustan be converted ......it would have happened just as easily!
Wether you believe such religous motives or not there is no doubt Mahmood was a far better ruler than any of our leaders today. Zardari does not even lick his boots man! Anyhow if he's a robber at least he admitted he was out to loot in a fair war. Thats a lot more than the Americans will admit with thier oil raids on sacred Iraqi soil. Also ghaznavids were warriors who took on stronger opeonents and won by fair means as a commander he was peerless in his time. Before we crticise our past we must look at our present and ask ourselves if anyman among the Muslims today can match his charecter. OK don't get me wrong here Mahmood did some stupid things as well. All leaders tend to do that unless they are absolutely perfect. Mahmood's not exactly the best thier ever was but he was not a tyrant. I'm not his biggest fan but i have no grudje with him. At least he did what was best for his people. Compare him with monarchs in contemprary Europe and you will see he really aint that bad. As for Indo-Pak relations India like Isreal has violated international law before pakistan was even one day old! How can ther ever be peace. they should apologise for thier own mistakes before demending ours. Until india acknowledges us properly we should not make any concessions. This is why i hate politics.
re: mahmood ghaznavi a looter?
He was a marauder,murderer,looter and a barbarian.
Mahmud gaznavi was afghan thats why he is calling him a mere looter. that was due to repeated attacks from west which kept hindus in control otherwise weak muslims of india would have been perished. attacks of ghaznavis, ghauris, durranis used to keep moral of indian muslims high.
Wrong,Indian Mulims are being penalised still today,for these barbarian thugs heinous acts.It has forced Hindus see Muslims with suspicion for years.
re: mahmood ghaznavi a looter?
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Mehmood of Ghazna is considered a Hero in our culture, if you don't want your war heros like Ram etc to be called in the same manner, take back your words...
re: mahmood ghaznavi a looter?
Who is Hero?Ghaznavi???????? Comeon.........
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Who is Hero?Ghaznavi???????? Comeon.........
Yes Do you have any problems... If Ram who's wife was kidnapped by some other king, and he waited for certain period of time to get his wife back, and he still can be your Hero/God then y not Mehmood Ghaznavi, he broke the war-power of Hindus and paved the way for other muslim invaders to rule India.
Yes i can understand your hatred towards him, a looter whom, all of your rajas collective war-machinery couldn't defeat...
re: mahmood ghaznavi a looter?
More they hate him more he was justified in his actions. Simple.
Yes Do you have any problems... If Ram who's wife was kidnapped by some other king, and he waited for certain period of time to get his wife back, and he still can be your Hero/God then y not Mehmood Ghaznavi, he broke the war-power of Hindus and paved the way for other muslim invaders to rule India.
Yes i can understand your hatred towards him, a looter whom, all of your rajas collective war-machinery couldn't defeat...
Whjatever is your bashing,your hero was a marauder.Simple.
And nowwonedr why is your country falling in to the hands of Neo-Marauders like Taliban.
re: mahmood ghaznavi a looter?
What ever our hero was, what about yours, who's wife was kidnapped and he took all that time to get her back... yet he is considered as god..
You never spoke about those rajas and their collective army, which cannot defeat a mere LOOTER.. any comments on that.. or your rajas were brave on women, children and unarmed men..
re: mahmood ghaznavi a looter?
Think about it, Ghazni a small state, smaller or equal to size of Punjab, A warrior cam out of that state and defeat the whole indian army... thats truly tells us that how brave these indians really were..