Was wondering what kind of career these graduates pursue.
What readily transferable skills do they have, that can help them earn a decent living after their graduation.
For example, in Saudi Arabia, what I heard is that they either get appointed as a Imam of a Masjid or are absorbed into the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice department. But we don’t have such a system in Pakistan. The skill development years (from childhood to late teens or maybe early 20’s) are mostly spent in the Madrassa, where I don’t think they teach any skills to enable them to find jobs and earn enough to sustain themselves, raise a family, kids etc.
So how these graduating gentlemen are being absorbed in the economic cycle
Their number must be in thousands (hundred thousands*?** based on the number of maddressas that we have all over Pakistan*)
I think, as far as I know, they get listed in Mehkma-e-Auqaaf (dept. of Auqaaf) which is govt. based... and then registered masaajid can get imaam from their....
atleast, that's how it was done in our neighbourhood.. and the imaam is also a Colloege lecturer as he was MA in Islamic studies as well..
but as far as I know.. Mehkma-e-Auqaaf is supposed to regulate such stuff...
There are many other things which are supposed to be done in Pakistan as well....
I heard alot of them either just go to work in Masjids or madrassas or try to find the nearest Jihad... Really dont need either of these...
Do the number of Imam positions available actually justify the number of madrassas out there?
The only thing they are lacking is worldly education . but i think after completing their graduation they only want to be imam. Because as you get close to religion you will not be much interested in worldly thing.
Above all ALLAH is always there to help such pious people who spend their lives for deen.
The only thing they are lacking is worldly education......
my point precisely
Surely they must also have some responsibilities in real life
School fees (unless the kids are also attending the Madressa), Utility bills, Doctor's expenses, food, clothing... to name a few..
They have to engage in some work that generates enough money to take care of all that stuff. With a lack of worldly education, as you said, how do they manage
i think some of them opt for teaching, other for being imam, some are hired to do research by religious institutes and fair lot of them tries their hand at business .
as stated above as a priority these madrassa graduates seek employment with mehekma-e-auquaf and get appointed to a masjid, seek imamat in a masjid not under mehekma-e-auquaf. Most go out and join the regular work force. It seems people here do not have a clear understanding of madrassa curriculum. In addition to the deeni taleem, these madrassas also impart vocational training. They are probably the biggest technical training centers in the country. Electricians, carpentars, plumbers are some of the occupations that the madrassa graduates take up on. This was one reason why it was so difficult for Pakistan to abolish the madrassas at the whim of western powers. The technical workforce out of these madrassas still out number the one from non religious technical colleges.
as stated above as a priority these madrassa graduates seek employment with mehekma-e-auquaf and get appointed to a masjid, seek imamat in a masjid not under mehekma-e-auquaf. Most go out and join the regular work force. It seems people here do not have a clear understanding of madrassa curriculum. In addition to the deeni taleem, these madrassas also impart vocational training. They are probably the biggest technical training centers in the country. Electricians, carpentars, plumbers are some of the occupations that the madrassa graduates take up on. This was one reason why it was so difficult for Pakistan to abolish the madrassas at the whim of western powers. The technical workforce out of these madrassas still out number the one from non religious technical colleges.
yes they teach "regular" school curriculum as well as the islamic
The only thing they are lacking is worldly education . but i think after completing their graduation they only want to be imam. Because as you get close to religion you will not be much interested in worldly thing.
Above all ALLAH is always there to help such pious people who spend their lives for deen.
But Allah can't do anything if one doesn't have the will to change themselves. Prophet pbuh said get education even if you have to go to china, clearly shows that Islam is about balanced education.
there are some madrissas that teach regular curriculum plus religious studies
there are others that have vocational training along with religious studies
and then there are those who dont
and then there are the minority which are not much more than extremost camps.
Yes I have a diverse view but its absolutely correct…..
These madrassah graduates are no more than suicide bombers, in a poor and corrupt country like Pakistan this is the only thing they can look forward too.. Becoming a martyr, Not that I am saying that they become one, No way!...
The only thing these sexually abused boys learn, is capping of the mind from every human desire, that capping in turn produces frustration, that frustration in turn makes them extremists, which in turn makes them suicide bombers.
Can you all believe I and many other Pakistanis are living in a country where the government has no writ, that means these madrassah boys filled with testosterone can kidnap police officials and the government can do nothing, just remember what America did to that “Waco” guy and his followers. I suggest the Pakistani Government doing the same.
^I suggest Pakistani government to get off its butt and invest sometime in educating its civilians rather than declaring war on them when unhappy with results. What sort of hitler mentality do you possess? They are your coutnry folks, most of them are under 25 and the youth of Pakistan and the best you can come up with is eradication theory?
Do you have any idea what percentage of Pakistani youth is educated in madrassas? That would be like comitting a genocide against your own people.
But Allah can't do anything if one doesn't have the will to change themselves. Prophet pbuh said get education even if you have to go to china, clearly shows that Islam is about balanced education.
Lusi they are literate. A milestone when you look at the literacy rate in Pakistan. And most of them learn other skills to maintain life. Lets just look at it honestly, wide majority of madrassa students are studying on fundings given to madrassas. They are doing all they can to educate themselves.
Besides i often feel if an engineer is completely uneducated in religious matters its a norm yet if a maulvi is uneducated in terms of a solid career he's an incompetent fool.
DERA ISMAIL KHAN: A suspected pro-Taliban militant was killed when a grenade he was handling went off at a religious school, a security official said on Wednesday.
The man identified as Abdul Rahman died and two companions were wounded when the grenade’s pin was accidentally removed, the official said requesting anonymity.
The incident took place in the town of Jandola which borders the restive South Waziristan tribal district. afp *
and how about this one..
*http://www.pakistan-facts.com/article.php?story=20050802085145402
While no religious seminary in Pakistan is ready to admit that the three London suicide bombers ever visited them, the Pakistan Government has itself declared that the three came to Pakistan between November 2004 and February 2005. Muhammad Siddiq Khan and Shehzad Tanweer stayed in Lahore and Faisalabad while Haseeb Hussain chose Karachi. Six months after their return from Pakistan, they committed such bloody acts of terror that it could change Europe much more than 9/11 changed America. The tragedy highlights the superficiality of Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf’s rhetoric about changing the country’s direction. During their stay at the seminaries, the bombers learnt to make explosives from recovered Al-Qaeda manuals. The information provided to Islamabad by the UK authorities show that Khan and Tanweer came to Pakistan in mid-2004. After landing in Karachi, the two militants traveled to Lahore from where they proceeded to Faisalabad. In the interregnum, they were at the Jamia Manzurul Islamia, an extremist Sunni madrassa situated in Lahore Cantonment. There, they lived with Osama Nazir at Jamia Fatahul Rahemia, a religious school run by Qari Ahlullah Raheemi. *