Love marriage is not halaal

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Due to the un-halal’ness of the process by which people fall in love…(accompanying opposite gender in emotionally intimate settings…and spending time in absence of a mehram present etc)…

Is it??

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astaghfiruallah.such an unhalal thread.why am i even here?

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^ Ditto!

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Well depends if it occured under Islamic settings or not. Islam allows true love to flourish and there are examples across history.

In the West and even in Muslim countries these days the culture has changed drastically, you know there are fewer places in the world each day where the original culture is still intact… one of the greatest casualties of so called progress… anyway.

As far as I know Islam still allowed the pre-Islamic customs of my people where the Bride was selected sometimes long before the child was even old enough to understand… both parents met up years beforehand and agreed to the basics then they left the youngsters to grow up and come to love each other… this system was not forbidden by Islam in fact it was encouraged.

I dont understand what the problem is… offcourse in todays times it might be hard to find suitable homes for ones sons and duaghters but this is primarily a parents responsibility… and besides once the agreement is sorted the rest is simple enough. Seriously what parent would marry thier child to an ugly or bad fammily. :hehe:

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LOL… :rotfl:

exits thread via trapdoor

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err like?I am interested in listening to those.

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You are assuming that everybody in a love marriage has acted in an unchaste, unislamic way. That is not always the case, just like not all arranged marriages are done in a totally islamic way.

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i am talking generally and not few specific cases where the 'falling in love' part might have been islamically correct....

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And arranged marriages too that are against peoples wishes are halal?

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is this halal?

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The term haraam is pretty absolute NomiCa.
Who says there are only a 'few specific cases' you do realise that for thousands of years people have been having love marriages and not engaging in sinful acts before marraige even in the west. Sex/touching/unchaproned dating has only been around recently because of those damn hippies and the 'sexual liberation' rubbish.

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definitly not........but thats not the point of discussion......discussion is about halaal'ness of a love marriage........if an arrange marriage is done not halaaal (forced)...that doesn't mean that love marriage becomes ok too (in conventional sense of the word).

i do not realise that...so i would like you to share with me...how does the love before marriage (in conventional meaning of the word) happen which is islamically correct....??

and how prevalent that halaal love before marriage is usually??

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sigh
NomiCa, you know you are just regurgitating a topic that has been discussed to death in the last few weeks alone, 'is dating halal -blah blah'.
It's quite simple really look up the definition of 'Courtship'. 'Dating' before marriage is a new concept.

Edit: the definition of 'courtship' pre 20th century
just want to add, chasteness and morals are not qualities owned only by 'Islamic' Countries. Countries that had a strong faith system have always disliked premarital relations. The reason why the west has gone downhill is because they have turned their back on their religion. Less than 100 years ago an unwed pregnant women in england would be sent to a mental home because people could not fathom a sane women having pre marital relations. Love marriages have always been around just in very controlled envirionments.

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I am compelled to return to this thread to answer the above. :snooty:

People for the love of whatever you hold dear get this thing straight:

A marriage that is forced upon anyone is a forced marriage.(full stop!)

All arranged marriages give you an opt out clause if they dont then you are forced into it… even if your raised to fulfill an obligation to one with whom your betrothed, you can still choose to opt out.

And for the record forced marriage is haraam.

Hope that clears up the matter, now carry on children.

You do realise Desi and Arab folklore are full of tales of men and women who fell deeply in love and overcame the odds to get married… surely if such marriages were illegal than why all the popular folklore some of it propagated by holy figures no less… not every desi love story is a tragedy :smack:

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I am talking about current times (hence the use of 'conventional')........and as far as regurgitating is concerned....life1 is itself a non-stop regurgitation of all topics discussed to death....several times :D

I have read that definition.....does the 'current' (last 50 years)'love marriage' happen as a result of the 'courtship' or 'dating'???

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Again the whole world does not think the same but Islamicly courting your betrothed is fine… dating or courting without an agreement is asking for trouble even if your not Muslim most cultures until recently would not allow it and even today I hear my Gorra counterparts mutter that they would break thier daughters legs to stop them going out on the saturday night.. offourse they wouldn’t really do that but then again :cb:

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I'm not debating sematics NomiCa, you asked a question, are love marriages haram? Absolute answer - no.
God has clearly stated in the Quran what marriages are haram (marriages to mom, dad, brother, sister, brother/sister of mom, brother/sister of dad, neices, nephews, and someone who was breastfed by the same women you were as a child). God did not outlaw love marriages, who the hell are we to.

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cool it bro!!

i am just raising a question.......i am not here to pick on people who have done 'love marriage'...nor i have an agenda to 'prove' that its haraam or wrong.....i am just having discussion.

P.S...i never asked is it 'haraam'........i said its 'not halaal' ..by that i implied that its not something completely halaal (due to the things i mentioned in first post viz...the modern process of premarital love).........and i definitely am nobody to call it haraam.......

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Please don't delude yourself into thinking you could upset me NomiCa, I am 'cool' and i'm not your 'bro'.

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:smack:…i know that already…i am not ‘deluding’ myself nor trying to make you upset…