Re: Loopholes in Religion
It’s only fair I answered ur question I have watched only 6 min of video I posted. And haven’t watched the one u posted.
Also, I wouldn’t contest ANY religion being dear to its followers. Hence don’t feel need to watch ur video. But will watch it weekend.
Am puzzled why u feel Krishna would disagree with my signature quote.
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Just saw this. Now u have me thoroughly confused.
You have no problems writing lengthy essays. But won’t answer a simple question from me abt ur comment on my signature.
Humra sar 360 deg ghooming
Re: Loopholes in Religion
Ok … Well Krishna character spends the best part of 2 or 3 episodes on the Mahabarta TV show, convincing Arjun to fight … and the same applies on the copy of the Baghwad Gita I have at home - not only is he riding a chariot of war - but he is giving Arjun the motivation to fight - to kill.
He is not exactly saying here that - when we hurt someone we hurt ourselves … although I think the sentiments could be contextualised … That when we hurt anyone (out of injustice) we harm ourselves … He was not a pacifist … that was my claim.
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Ok. Got it. I assumed that is what you meant. But didn’t want to conclude that’s what you meant.
You probably know more abt Gita than I do. IMO, Krishna was simply asking Arjuna to do his Dharma..do his duty. As a Kshatriya it was Arjunas duty to fight for justice. Part of fighting is someone does get killed. But that is not same as hurting the other person.
The message I take is we should do our duty. Not that we should hurt others.
The quote in my signature, to me is so powerful. When we do wrong to others and end up hurting them, we chip away at our own humanity and end up hurting ourselves.
IMO this is not inconsistent with the GITA.
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With context I can accept and embrace the two positions …duty and no harm…
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Yeh huwi na baat!
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“Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.”
[5:32] Quran.
Re: Loopholes in Religion
Yes - that is also consistent.
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This is stunning.
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“He knows truth who knows This God as one. Neither second or third Nor fourth is He is called; Neither fifth nor sixth Nor seventh is He called; Neither eighth nor ninth Nor tenth is He is called. He surveys all that breathes And that breathes not. He possesses the Power of SupremeHe is One,The One Alone.In Him All divine powers Become the One Alone.” [Reference: Atharva Veda 13.5. 14-21]
“He is One and one remains alone;There is no Second God.” [Reference: Atharva Veda 13.5.20]
“God is One the Lord of Men,exceeding far and wide.We observe His Holy Laws.” [Reference: Rig Veda 8.25.16]
“There is no parallel to Him,Whose glory is truly great.” [Reference: Yajur Veda 32.3]
“He is One. Come together, you all, with power of spirit, To the Lord of Heaven, Who is only One, the Guest of people; He the ancient desires to come to new; To Him all pathways turn; really, He is One.” [Reference: Sama Veda. 372]
"Seek Him everywhereAll is within His speech.He knows all things.Full of Wisdom,He determinesWhat ought to be done,He is our recourse,All powers are vested in HimHe fulfills all our aspirations.He is the sourceOf all our nourishment and vigor,Intelligence and strength.” [Reference: Rig Veda 1.145.1]
"He is all-pervading, unchanging supreme beingIs the purest of pure. He permeates all eternal lawsAnd Manifest throughoutThe universal life forces—The sea, the earth, and the mountains.” Reference: Rig Veda 4.40.5.
“You are the Father of this world, moving and unmoving. You are to be adored by this world. You are the greatest Guru, for these exists none who is equal to you; how can there be then another, superior to You in the three worlds, O Being of Unequal Power?” [The Holy Geeta page 708]
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Just WOW… this is God of old testament(torah --plasms) and Quran, and of Jesus(pbuh)'s teaching.
PS: talk about consistencies :halo:
Re: Loopholes in Religion
Some say the Mahabharata never did happen. Advice to fight against evil applies to each of us. Control our dark side. Fight against it.
Hinduism also teaches one God. I learnt that about 15 years ago. Book by I think some one named Narayanan.
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so southie:
Let me finally introduce you to islam. 
We are the people who believe on above. And we are part of a process, which by design, make sure above facts dont get distorted. Ever.
It don’t get simpler then that.
Now say hello to us… you know us from 5000+ years ago 
dont be a stranger brother…
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But I have never had anything negative to say about any religion. All religions and beliefs have my respect.
Ramadan Mubarak, by the way.
Redid the Arithmetic. It was about 25 yrs ago when I read that book. Not 15. What’s 10 yrs in the grand scheme of things.