Looking for U.S. fiance/spousal immigrantion info. .... pls help if have knowledge

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What is the procedure to file for immigration visa in Pakistan if a U.S. citizen goes to Pakistan and marries someone there. The citizen is below 18, fulltime student with no job. Parents are willing to do whatever is required to show financial support and provide lodging and food in the U.S. (basically to show the person from Pakistan won’t become public burden).

My friend’s daughter and her mom are flying out at the end of this month. We are trying to find the info. but what we have found says that the girl has to be resident of the area of the U.S. embassy for six months to be able to apply for “Direct Consular Filing”… walk-in to the Embassy and get an immigrant visa for the husband.

I know that this used to happen but don’t know what is the current procedure after 9/11.

Does anyone have information on this process, time involved, succes/failure chances, options?

Thanks for any info and/or guidance.

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Getting her married under 18 could cause some problems if her husband wants to go for immigration.

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Hmmmm...... this is a factor we are thinking about.

Another option is for the girl/boy to meet and have pictures taken... a requirement for filing for Fiance visa. Once here, in Texas, marriage can take place. Texas allows for kids to be married starting at 16 with parental approval.

Folks in Lahore are trying to find info from U.S. embassy but the guy who picks up the phone doesn't know. Keeps saying that he'll find out and to call back. Have done that for 2 days now. They are trying to go the embassy to find the info.

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They are trying to go the embassy to find the info.
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That´s probably the best thing to do.

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Have you visited the INS website? they have a lot of info there.
I would apply for the spousal visa vs. the fiance visa. Fiance visas are taking forever esp. if you are a male from Pakistan. I'm stuck in a similar situation so I won't recommend it. Go with the spousal visa if any and then on top of that apply for a K-3 visa for the husband as well. There are no time limits as to when a Pakistani male would get his visa because of the fact that he is Pak and male post 9/11 which automatically puts him in the wanted terrorist category! Anyways I can seriously go off on this subject. Go ahead and consult a desi immigration lawyer if u are living in Texas and they have plenty of knowledge on this issue.
On a personal note, I won't recommend marriage at such a young age :)

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The US embassy islamabad hold a web chat session with one of its councillor’s answering allot of questions…

Try their website…here is a link.

Free Pizza with a Visa

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They heard today that their K1, Fiance Visa application, which they had filed two months ago has been rejected. They don't accept financial inability to go and meet as a hardship. They had been told by a lawyer few days ago that their application will be rejected which turned out to be true. Anticipating the rejection, mom and daughter decided to get prepared to go to Pakistan and "meet".

So, now, here we are. If the daughter can't get her husband a visa by fact of her U.S. citizenship then the husband is willing to go to U.K. to carry on his studies there. In the meanwhile, our friends will start the paperwork in the U.S. As holidays and summer vacations come, it'll be feasible for the parties to meet from U.K. being rather affordable enough for a few trips during the year.

Umer - No update yet. Still in process.

Rukhsarbibi - hmmmm..... fikar waali baat hai. How long has it been for your process? Prospects?

underthecross - I checked the website, found the URL but they are saying that the next chat is next month. They talk about prev. chat archives being available which I couldn't locate. We have been at this site recently and got some info. Didn't catch the chat link before.

The daughter here has fall vacation coming up in two weeks but then the next opportunity will be in Christmas... at a much higher cost.

And check this out!!! - Mom is a U.K. born. Daughter is a U.S. born. Mom hasn't been to Pakistan for 20 years. Daughter's is the first trip. They CAN NOT get visas to Pakistan since they can't prove that their husbands and fathers were Pakistani citizens. Both Fathers are deceased. Husband's previous Pakistani passport was probably turned in or destroyed or something when the U.S. passport was acquired over a dacade ago but the husband hasn't been to Pakistan since childhood. Mom has her school papers but I don't think they will consider them. For some reason, they are looking for father and husband info. even though they are not part of the trip.

Don't think that Mom and daughter are going to Pakistan soon. They might have to go to U.K. and "meet" there, come back and file for visa. They could also get married in U.K. and then file for K3 in U.S.

It's getting complicated too quick..................

I check into the National Identity card for overseas Pakistanis and the wait time is 3-4 months! So, that, as a quick option, is out.

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Rukhsarbibi - hmmmm..... fikar waali baat hai. How long has it been for your process? Prospects?

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that is surprising that they are marrying the daughter off to a Pakistani when the mom and the daughter have not been to Pak in ages!
We've been waiting for almost 2 years now. Gone thru everything we could possibly on our end but the embassywalas in Pak are saying they are waiting on the state dept in the US to finish the bkgrnd check. The bkgrnd check has been going on for 9 months and counting. They have not rejected the visa, but have left us indefinitely hanging. We're going to wait until year end and if nothing happens try other options. I sound like a Dear Abby letter :)

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Rukhsarbibi - We've heard and read that the Fiance visa takes the least amount of time. These guys didn't have pictures together so that was the reason given to reject the application. The whole process took about 2 months. By how the things were moving... according to a few lawyers we have talked to, Fiance visa is 60-90 days long.

I know what you are saying about marrying to a Pakistani when the parents haven't been there in ............. well, never. Both were introduced by a relative. Liked each other. Parents agreed afterwards and decided to respect the wishes of the kids to marry. Culture shock is certainly something to think about. They still have to find out tomorrow if the wife's Pakistan school records would suffice or if they still demand father or husband's info. The lady didn't ask if her own past information that shows her living in Pakistan would suffice.

We'll see what they find out tomorrow.

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These guys didn't have pictures together so that was the reason given to reject the application. The whole process took about 2 months. By how the things were moving... according to a few lawyers we have talked to, Fiance visa is 60-90 days long.

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From one of my friends experiences, he told me that the requirement is you have to show you and your fiance have met at least once within the last two years, or if due to some cultural restriction or religious if you cannot see one another, then you have to demonstrate otherwise. I dont think you need to have pictures together, just the standard passport type photo with the application. The process varies, but of two people I know who did it, it took 5 months, but this was before 9/11.

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^ We were under the same belief that fiance visa takes 8-10 months MAX! But that is not true anymore - post 9/11. I would seriously recommend filing for a spousal visa (as that's what all the lawyers are suggesting these days too). If it was a guy sponsoring his fiance, she would not have much difficulty, but since it is a Pakistani male, they are going to hold up the case forever. Just a bit of advice from my experience :)

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And check this out!!! - Mom is a U.K. born. Daughter is a U.S. born. Mom hasn't been to Pakistan for 20 years. Daughter's is the first trip. They CAN NOT get visas to Pakistan since they can't prove that their husbands and fathers were Pakistani citizens. Both Fathers are deceased. Husband's previous Pakistani passport was probably turned in or destroyed or something when the U.S. passport was acquired over a dacade ago but the husband hasn't been to Pakistan since childhood. Mom has her school papers but I don't think they will consider them. For some reason, they are looking for father and husband info. even though they are not part of the trip.

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Why do they need information about fathers and husbands if the mother and daughter apply for Pakistani visas? Usually Pakistani embassies issue visas for foreigners within one week even if they are not of Pakistani origin and have no family links to Pakistan.

An Austrian friend of mine got his visit visa application for Pakistan processed within 24 hours!

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Umer - Problem solved. This lady's mom found her husband's NIC card. A scan copy is coming via email today. Visa apps. to be overnighted today or tomrrow. Expect back in 4-5 days. Problem solved. They will give the visa quicker if part of immediate family is of Pakistani origin. Otherwise, it'll take over a week which these guys don't have right now.

50-b - The rejection was based on the fact that there weren't any pictures "together" not the passport pics. This was also told them by the lawyer whom they had seen a day before the rejection came in the mail.

RB - Will keep the updates coming. I have shown your posts to my wife so both of us have some more understanding when we talk to our friends. Upon listening to your stories, they continue to say that the lawyers tell them that most delays are in the "details" where some paperwork is demanded and those aren't turned in on time... and the INS takes weeks to look at the stuff at ever step. If any stuff is submitted with incorrect information then that time in between is lost.
In, anycase, I will continue to update as I find out more which, in most probability, will be in about the 30th... the day of the wedding ... right after leaving the airport and finding an open mosque with a imam then off to embassy on the same trip.

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same thing happend to me when i applied for my wife (fiance at that time)....
they denied it since I didnt have any pics of me and her together....

these days they are upto something which i thought was weird...I just send an application to the nebraska service center since I live in Illinois....they forwarded it to the california service center (somehow there arent many ppl appying for immigration there) their responce time according to the uscis website is way better than the Nebraska service center so if the person you are talking about applies for a immigrant visa which is form I-130 they might be hearing something from the uscis in about 2 months.....I applied on aug 27th 2004 and california service center is processing requests they recieved on aug 2nd 2004.....i know it seems off but thats what they are reporting on their website as to the nebraska service center which is processing requests from sep 2003. I will still send the application for a fiance visa (K3) which is for a wife to come to US while his/her applicaiton for immigration is pending..and i might be able to get the immigration first cause the fiance visa application goes to the national benefits center which is in chicago and they are prcessing requests from march 2004 at this time...hope this helps let me know if there is any more infomation you need..most of my days are spent on the uscis website trying to get some more information....

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jannu it might help them to apply straight for that card thingy from Pakistan.. then they'd be exempt from future visa requirements.

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I-130 immigrant visa petition for my wife got approved!! now is there anyone who knows what happens from here??? I mean how much time are we talking from NVC (National Visa Center) getting the approved case from USCIS (formerly INS) and my wife getting an interview?? NVC isnt of any help when it comes to asking the time frame....

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^ Have you sent in an affadavit of Financial support?

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nope!! I have it all ready but didnt send it cause it wasnt required with an I-130...

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jannu it might help them to apply straight for that card thingy from Pakistan.. then they'd be exempt from future visa requirements.
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Yeah, you are right.

I have heard that there are different types of cards. Blue card, Green Card, NICOP card. The NICOP card, I have heard, is about $120.00 but if there's no proof of prior Pakistani residence then one needs to get something like a.... Resident Pakistani.... or somthing similar. Thought there used to be one type or card. We were thinking of getting a NIC cards for ourselves and my neighbor is also getting his done.... but they came from Pakistan few years ago so they know what they need. They'll get theirs done from Pakistan. I am going to be contacting someone in my family in Pakistan to see if we can have ours done and what paperwork they'll require.

I believe I am a bit confused at the incidental information I have gathered recently. I need to look more closely to see what I and my family need.

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I-130 immigrant visa petition for my wife got approved!! now is there anyone who knows what happens from here??? I mean how much time are we talking from NVC (National Visa Center) getting the approved case from USCIS (formerly INS) and my wife getting an interview?? NVC isnt of any help when it comes to asking the time frame....
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Congratulations!

For the rest... I don't know... Let me see what I can find out about what you are asking.