Asalam alei kum,
I have yet to follow, that Quran says to cut the hands of thieves in its certain verse; then why muslim countries do not implement such kind of rules; and thus cut the hands of so many of thieves in muslim ummah?
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sokoon, did you read it in Quran? can you quote the verse of Quran that says to cut the hands of the thief?
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I remember, it’s not that easy to implement. There are always hard pre-requisites to it. I do not remember which one but I remember how many conditions are in sharia’h to implement such rule. **6 **that is. One condition being the total supremecy of the Law of the book.
I have also come across to an event that happened in the Caliphate of Hadhrat Umer 
when the Arabian Peninsula was hit by drought. This particular punishment was temporarily cancelled from the judiciary system.. (must be one of those six conditions)
wallah-o-Aalam!
PS: can any knowledgable person provide me those six pre-requisites. I will appreicaite it. 
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5:38 **As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power. **
–Surah Al-Ma’eda
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Walikum Salam !
Thank you for asking question which is easy to understand :)
You can not implement just one rule out of so many and leave others aside !
Islamic punishment for theft is to cut of one hand of thief.
To implement islamic punishment you need Islamic state
Islamic state is a welfare state where people's welfare is first priority of govenment and Rules are derived from devine guidance.
Education and health of every child born in islamic state is the responsibility of state.
First comes responsibility and then Accountibility and then punishment.
You can not simply reverse the order
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There are a lot of islamic things that these countries dont implement.
Anyway, if these so called muslim govts did opt to cut the hands of the thief, a lot of the Presidents and Prime Ministers of muslim countries would have no hands....
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Thank you Qureshi sahib, i wanted to cofirm the source of this punishment.
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hmm if the verse says “hands”, then why is only one hand chopped off..
Also does the Arabic in the verse specify from where the hand is to be chopped off?
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what do you do to a repeat offender?
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^u cut his peepee
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lussi there are other forums for you to be a smarta$$..
coming back to the topic.. discussing the "logic" of the whole thing.. do we all think it's "logical" to have a nation of handicaps running around cuz they indulged in petty thefts?
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Thanks Code, for enlightning us. Kindly give some example of an Islamic State as per your definitions if Islam is a successful religion!
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also, if we don't have an Islamic state are we exempt from imposing all the hadood as instructed to us in the Qur'an?
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I havent searched for referrence but they can be found easily.
From memory I think you cut one hand off first and then for repeat offenders you cut the other (I seem to recall something about feet as well but Im sure someone can elaborate).
As for a nation of "handicaps for petty theft" - islam is not like that. The theft has to be significant so much so that if a hungry person has stolen to feed himself then the leader of the state would be held responsible for creating that situation.
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Also forgot to add its better to let a guilty man go free then an innocent man get punished for a crime he didnt commit.
As for the punishment being barbaric, it is horrific but beleive me if I knew I would lose my hand, I would keep them firmly in my pockets.
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are both these points from ‘memory’ or are they supported by any evidence? The Qur’an simply states “hands” and “the thief”.. I don’t see any discrimination between a billion dollar embezzler and a juvenile delinquent stealing for kicks.
As for it not being “barbaric”, do u think it makes sense that we cut off a body part for people who steal but only flog adulterers? We even have a provision to “excuse” people who murder by forgiving them.
Does the punishment of “chopping off” hands really seem like an “Islamic” punishment to anyone?
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There are authentic hadiths and quran ayats on this matter - google it and find them.
There is no compulsion in religion - you have the choice to believe whether or not it is an islamic punishment or not and whether it is barbaric.
In islam we take it compeletly or not at all - you cant pick and chose.
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no seriously.. i’d like to hear them.. asserting something in a discussion and then asking the other side to google YOUR facts is kinda lame..
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Hence most of the Islamic parties in Pakistan opposed Nawaz Sharif’s attempt to introduce hadood punishments in the late 90s.
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Exactly. The Ikhwaan-Ul-Muslimeen, the main Islamic opposition party in Jordan, has used this example to base its policy that if it takes power in Jordan, it temporarily will not implement the hand-cutting obligation.