Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
PA, instead of just throwing stones from the sidelines, why don't you enlighten us with what you understand by the punishment/deterrent prescribed in verse 5:38? Feel free to Google as much as you like.
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
PA, instead of just throwing stones from the sidelines, why don't you enlighten us with what you understand by the punishment/deterrent prescribed in verse 5:38? Feel free to Google as much as you like.
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
The people like us who follow the example of prophet:saw: (THE SUNNAH) to extract the explanation of the quoted ayah are not confused like that ![]()
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
throwing stones? hmm are u living in a glass house that u’re so worried?
I’m just asking logical questions.. afterall the topic at hand is trying to understand the "logic’ behind the punishment. Why don’t u help by telling us how repeat offenders are treated and who determined the exact sequence of chopping body parts and from where?
well great! then share your knowledge of “Sunnah” with us that explains these questions.
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
Unfortunately the "logic" behind this punishment is not something for us to discuss. Instructions are pretty clear in the Quranic text. As for splitting hairs, either you follow Islam or you don't. If you don't like it, feel free to invent your own religion.
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no answers?.. typical and par for the course for you really… now who is the one living in a glass house?..
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
no the logic is not clear.. we can’t misinterpret and then justify our misintrepretations as “will of Allah”.. neither is it invention of religion.. it’s just proper understanding of the same religion misunderstood for ages..
answers? i thought u had them! what’s YOUR contribution to the thread anyway? come on now.. post the references that support all these theories about chopping off one hand and from the wrist and chopping the left first and then right and so on for repeat offenders. Don’t disappoint for a change.
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
What part of that verse exactly don’t you understand? What instrument to use to the cut the hand? There is no room for misinterpretation here.
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
PA, i'm not the one in sheep's clothing pretending to "ask logical questions" LOL :-)... is it true verse 5:38 is such a thorn in the side of the 'i-know-the-Qur'an-better-than-the Prophet' brigade that they can often be seen performing somersaults to avoid having to take recourse to the Prophet's (saw) example?... I look forward to the gymnastics display...
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
patience gupguppy.. there is much to come.. unlike you I am not afraid of questioning.. but first.. can u please share the "Prophetic examples" that formulate the enactment of the law..
skhan, there is plenty to think about.. as i've in several posts in this thread.. to summarize, the punishment doesn't measure upto the crime. When someone is killed, by accident or intentional, Islam still keeps room for repentance and forgiveness.. how can it ever be that petty theft is punished by decapitation?? a punishment reserved only for the true miscreants, the "Enemy of the State"
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
good… i’ll repeat my question then: “Why don’t you enlighten us with what you understand by the punishment/deterrent prescribed in verse 5:38? Feel free to Google as much as you like.”
… waiting with baited breath
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
but isn’t Allah:swt: the only judge?
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Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
Oh I see, God must have overlooked that when He wrote the Quran. ![]()
Quit with the sidestepping. You have no argument.
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no .. but humans may have overlooked what God really meant.. the words of the Qrur’an are the same.. interpretations only depend on our knowledge.. which is why they can be different..
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
I see, you persist to prance around the bush, yet you cannot answer a simple question. What exactly did God mean by that verse? What other interpretation can be inferred from that direct and succint statement? Come on now, don’t be shy, spout your fairytale. Or are you implying to claim that ONLY you know what God is truly talking about and throughout the history of Islam everyone else has been making a big mistake? ![]()
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
ok i am waiting too....
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
I do intend to share my current understanding of the issue.. but first i'm still waiting to hear from knowledgable folks on how this command is interpreted today and please share the supporting evidence.. which "authentic" prophetic traditions in their mind are used to arrive at the current mode of dispensing the punishment for this crime?
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
LMAO!! :-)
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
what happened gupguppy .. cat got your tongue? where are the "Prophetic traditions" and the "Prophets Sunnah" and other irrefutable proof?
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
^ If you need "advice" on clauses which directly say cut off the hands, then you will probably spend your whole life "checking" and verifying every single clause of the Quran. Why begin at stealing? Start at the top. What does God really mean when He says there is One God? What can be interpreted from that? Maybe he meant two all along?
An ambitious if not stupid endeavor. No one has time to waste on you. Good luck with your research.
Re: Logic of cutting ands of a thief in Islam
Looks like the cat got to you first ![]()
What do people who suffer from ‘i-know-the-Qur’an-better-than-the-Prophet’ syndrome care about the Prophet’s sunnah and traditions…