Lobbying for Kashmir cause is spying?

Well Ghulam Nabi Fai has been charged for taking money from Pakistan to lobby for Kashmir and change the view of American law makers about it.

And the freaking and blunt tunneling of millions of dollars to interfere in our internal affairs is allowed. I say shut all those freaking NGOs and media, which is taking money from US Govt. and make all those “journalists”, or “aid workers” plead guilty. Let Americans cry in their media when we do it.

These ******* shameless Americans, if it were up to me, I would have broken all the diplomatic relations with them and told them to go to hell!

PS. Now I know, why some people who claim to be “born in America” are so scared to say anything against US policies on Paklinks, :wink:

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Please do post the related link

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Ghulam Nabi Fai, US-based Kashmiri separatist leader, pleads guilty to charges of spying for ISI - Times of India](Ghulam Nabi Fai, US-based Kashmiri separatist leader, pleads guilty to charges of spying for ISI - Times of India)

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He was charged for concealing income and tax evasion and for conspiracy to act as an unregistered foreign agent.
He was involved in spying activities . Lobbying for Kashmiri cause or any cause is not against US law.
More information about this law can be found here:

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^^ Yeah right. And all those "journalists", "aid workers", "politicians" taking money from USA to lobby for Yankees ... and not "concealing" that in their tax returns in Pakistan... shouldn't we do the same to those? Isn't it against our country's law?

I just want to see what these very same Americans say when we catch few of their stooges in our country...

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Yes all those .......
Puppets and friends

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If Pakistan has a law like that who is stopping them to implement them ?

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haaN chacha, sab ka zikar kar to diya...

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Ok let me be the devils advocate here achterban. Why the heck was he pocketing up to $750K a year from ISI? Forget about US tax payers, why was he receiving Pakistani tax payers dollars from ISI? Who gave him and ISI this authority to put such a major dent in the already sinking Pakistani economy?

Please dont go ahead and justify the act of another lutera. He should be publicly executed, in my opinion.

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Well sad it is but we should know that Indian lobby has big hand in this conspiracy as well. Ghulam nabi fai and people like him are assets to our country. Insha'aallah i pray for his release and safety for his family. The IOK kashmiri circle that i personally i know strongly condemn his arrest. Insha''allah we all pray for his release.

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You know it very well who is stopping them from implementing the laws of our country!

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I need a nationalist patriotic govt. in my country... I need my freedom.
Kick those Yankee stooges out of my country pleaseeeeee... someone? anyone!

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He could legally do what he was doing by registering himself as a foreign agent. But then he would have to pay taxes on the money he was receiving from ISI.

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hey dude, you give me a million dollar a year and I can lobby for Kashmir. heck I will lobby for Somalia, Sudan, Iraq and all, you name it.

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It is not even one million dollar! Something like 7 Karor Rs?

Man even a Patwari gets that much for kick-backs in few months in Pakistan and you think we can not pay someone to actually lobby for our national interest in the so called "superpower"?

If he is to be executed for lobbying for a foreign govt. then so should be all the Indian, Israeli, Chinese, Russian, Thais, Taiwanese etc., lobbyists.... Don't you think so?

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Dude, I am not talking about lobying. I am taking about doing it for money. Where are the ethics there?

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^^ Are you implying other lobbyists are not taking any money for their services and doing it purely on ethic grounds?

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If you are ok with someone stealing Pakistani money in the name of lobbying, then I am not going to argue. Fai was all we needed, another lutera.

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I think what he meant is that if you are taking a money for lobbying there is no 'emotional' attachment to the (Kashimir) cause and hence Fai is just another 'pro' and should not be seen as champion of Kashmir cause.

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Fai was a lobbyist and was paid for his services. I don't know how good or bad he was, I just know that we paid a lobbyist to promote our point of view, just like zillion other governments (and top of the list - the yankees) are doing. May be our Govt made a mistake to chose not a good lobbyist, but still it is not a reason good enough to convict him...

If his "crime" is taking money to promote point of view of a foreign Govt. (which btw. till today officially is a friendly govt), then one has to raise question about the selective nature of this legal process.

BTW, .. lets put other lobbyists aside for a while, what about Mansoor Ijaz?

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paid secretly using pakistani tax payer's money for the cause that was more of an agenda than a real cause. if he was a lobbyist on an open payroll, I wuld not have any problem.