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Now they are saying there will 8 hours long outages... All because of Mush govts negelect and ill planing.
I saw Mush climbing a bijli ka khamba and cutting some wires yesterday. He was wearing a KESC wardi. Damn that American puppet who refuses to take of his wardi.
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Govt negelect doesnt mean Mush went and diconnected wires genius…
How much intelect does it take to understand that when a govt doesnt inticipate the power requirments of a growing economy and population, and doesnt make any kind of real substantial plans to do something about it, its a failure in governance… 
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Just before the newbies who think Musharraf is quiad-e-azam attribute Musharraf for inventing bijli in Pakistan, let me remind them that Pakistan did have electricity (load shedding free) before Musharraf came in.
For god sakes, be careful man. You don't want to be accused of blasphemy do ya?
Oh btw did you know busharraf (PBUH) also invented the internet?
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Yeah maybe thats why there is a looming power crisis now lol
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Yeah maybe thats why there is a looming power crisis now lol
Looming.. Its already here! :(
How many countries in the world can claim to have an economic boom while there are 8 hour long Power shutdowns?
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Spock, load shedding is indeed uncomfortable but yet again you persist in reinforcing the fact you desire others to think you are stupid.
Load Shedding occurs during dictatorships?
So i take it that; just like E=mc^2; dictatorship = load shedding? Im sure you can rephrase that in a more grammatically correct manner.
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biddah, go tell that to the author of the article at the news, Im sure they hire ppl who are smarter than you...
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Spock, load shedding is indeed uncomfortable but yet again you persist in reinforcing the fact you desire others to think you are stupid.
Load Shedding occurs during dictatorships?
So i take it that; just like E=mc^2; dictatorship = load shedding? Im sure you can rephrase that in a more grammatically correct manner.
Bhai, your not allowed to call people stupid... Thats can lead to a warning... Its called trolling and being irrationally confrontational...
Anyways, its bad governance and lack of planning that causes load shedding... Or do you think the govt has no responsibility in planning for the countires power needs?!?!?!
And dictatorship often means bad governance... You cant expect one man rule to offer solutions to problems effecting a country of 160 million can you??!
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Bhai, your not allowed to call people stupid by the way... Thats can lead to a warning...
Anyways, its bad governance and lack of planning that causes load shedding... Or do you think the govt has no responsibility in planning for the countires power needs?!?!?!
No, i do think government has to be responsible for civic duties towards its people.
However, such rampant and idiotically polarized ramblings make no one progress.
This dictator of sorts has done many things beneficial for this nation. At the end he is a dictator; but i prefer living under his rule rather than the past two feudal choudaries we have suffered under.
Because Feudal Landlords know all about how to prevent load shedding; isnt it?
No, you cant - but whats Plan B?
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Biddah, the feudal landlords did solve the problem, at one point we were even ready to export surplus energy to India, but now thanks to your favourite dictator, we are enjoying 12 hours a day, a new feat! Btw, you could have posted from your old nick 
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I enjoy my new name, Captain Spock.
Im not so sure the feudal landlords improved the load shedding problem, can i have a resource [online one] that says so?
I experienced load shedding during the rule of the Feudals too; not to mention one channel (PTV) and lack of economic prosperity.
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I enjoy my new name, Captain Spock.
Im not so sure the feudal landlords improved the load shedding problem, can i have a resource [online one] that says so?
Read the first post again... If you have difficulty please let me know. I didnt write it myself, its from the news, and it addresses your query.
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I experienced load shedding during the rule of the Feudals too; not to mention one channel (PTV) and lack of economic prosperity.
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You honestly think you had 12 hour long load shedding sessions, esp in the mid 90s when there was hardly any load shedding because of surplus?>
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Your right, there was electricity under the landlords. Suprise, suprise.
However, there was no economic development. Now there is economic development, but no energy.
Great.
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No, i do think government has to be responsible for civic duties towards its people.
However, such rampant and idiotically polarized ramblings make no one progress.
This dictator of sorts has done many things beneficial for this nation. At the end he is a dictator; but i prefer living under his rule rather than the past two feudal choudaries we have suffered under.
Because Feudal Landlords know all about how to prevent load shedding; isnt it?
No, you cant - but whats Plan B?
The govt isnt responsible for planning for the power needs of its people? Where are the people supposed to get the power needed? Hamster wheels perhaps?
You cant blame the people for speaking against the govt... This is obviously a failure of the govt, which did not plan or even inticipate these energy requirments.
Thats not idiocy, thats common sense...
And why are you surprised by polarizing comments? The country is polarized, thats what dictatorship does... It doesnt work by consesnsus, it produces conflict and polarization..
So before you blame us for "polarizing" you need to start examining the situation in Pak and ground realities...
And the dictators acheivments are debatable... But at the end of the day, you know as well as I do that individuals dies, institutions live on... Mush will die, and there will be nothing to take his place...
In the short term, people are satisfied with dictators, but after they leave, everything is destroyed... This is a perpetual cycle, dictator comes, leaves and everything begins again... Democracy is whats needed. Other wise this cycle will keep repeating.
You should consider whats best for Pakistans long term future. Mush was only a short term solution, but even that is over.. He is a liability even in the short term.
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Your right, there was electricity under the landlords. Suprise, suprise.
However, there was no economic development. Now there is economic development, but no energy.
Great.
Bhai, growing economies, need energy! Its no shock there... Mush can tout his economic acheivments, but shouldnt they also hunt for some energy source to power the growing economy?
Also, you know as well as I do the constraints of the Feudal Landlords... They had to work under sanctions, their govt were never allowed to comlete a single tenure, and they were to busy battling for their own survival against their political rivals and the Pak Army and intelligence..
Mush govt, like many dictators before him, had the luxury of having the full backing of the Army, complete access to all forms of financing, aswell as full support of America..
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I know that growing economies need energy, i was just highlighting the irony of it all.
Im not suprised at the polarized comments, rather these comments dont breed moderate, temperate minds - which are the best minds for thinking critically, professionally, and appropriately.
Feudal Landlords created policies that favored land holders. Much created policies that favored a Capitalist System - which is what we need in the 21st century.
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I know that growing economies need energy, i was just highlighting the irony of it all.
Im not suprised at the polarized comments, rather these comments dont breed moderate, temperate minds - which are the best minds for thinking critically, professionally, and appropriately.
Feudal Landlords created policies that favored land holders. Much created policies that favored a Capitalist System - which is what we need in the 21st century.
Apart from ZAB, who represented a genuine Left and progressive economics in Pakistan, I think Pakistan has always been more liberal in its economic policies even under most dictatorships. Infact under Sharif's era Pakistan was much more economically liberal than India, until well we all know what. Kargil. And the rest is as they say....
It was a general trend in South Asia and in fact Pakistan was ahead of the curve.
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lets not put too much pressure on his brain 
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ANY PERSON WHO HAS LIVED IN PAKISTAN IN THE 90S KNOWS THAT ONCE ELECTRICY WENT OUT, IT STAYED OUT FOR 3 DAYS, NOW IT HARDLY GOES OUT FOR 30 MINUTES.
FACT IN THE 90S THERE WAS NO ELECTRICTY AVILAVLE IN VILLAGES, IT WAS ONLY THE MUSHARRAF ADMINISTRATION THAT POWERED ALL VILLAGES
FACT NO,2 ANY PERSON WITH A BRAIN KNOWS THE RAPID COMMERCIALIZATION AND INDUSTRIALIZATION HAPPENED IN THE LAST 8 YEARS, THERE IS A MUCH BIGGER DEMAND FOR POWER TODAY, PAKISTAN HAS GROWN ALOT IN THE LAST 8 YEARS, LAHORE HAS NEARLY DOUBLED ITS SPACE.
stop smearing the facts..the electiricity goes now and it says gone for hours and hours.. and wats the use of load shedding for 2 hours and then bringing electricity on for 30 minutes.. thats wat i have expereinced in my village for the last week and even before..
rapid commercialization... yar just go to faisalabad go to sialkot.. and u wil see wat kind of commercialization has gone there... factories have closed.. ppl r in debt.. when the international competition is tough we r raising prices for electricty and gas .. and u call it unprecedented commercialization?..
i know one big company in faisalabad called interLoop which was top 5 companies in the world for socks (hoisery)and now it is selling its assets to save from debts..this is just one example.. the only investments i see r cellular ..land..and banking sector..
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Read it? I've memorized it to heart. All Pakistanis long for the brilliant days of BB and NS. Someone just needs to remind Pakistanis of that.
Im sure you would miss the good old days of BB... Remeber 95'? Where were you when the MQM were crushed?