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Huh...I thought mushtael meant "provoked"?
To be provoked, you need a provoker. For ishteaal, you dont.
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To be provoked, you need a provoker. For ishteaal, you dont.
Isnt isteaal sort of like rage? I could be way off here.
ps. I am only attempting to stretch this thread to 20 pages. Not really interested in having a meaningful debate. :D
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Not really interested in having a meaningful debate. :D
tell us something new dear.
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this boring thread is now interesting. _
aga'eeN queer aunty.....
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a wild dear appears.
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tell us something new dear.
Did my response get you all "isteaal-ed"? Passively isteaal-ed?
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OK so according to Free Arabic English Translation Online Dictionary Translator, ishteaal means ignition. Makes sense as the word sholaa (flame) must be from ishteaal,
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Never heard of that word and I lived in Pakistan longer than Muzna did :D
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These words are no longer part of spoken urdu. You will only find them in urdu newspaper.
These words are no longer part of spoken urdu. You will only find them in urdu newspaper.
I have seen many Pakistani news channels still using the words "Mushta-iL" and "Ishte-aL"
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I have seen many Pakistani news channels still using the words "Mushta-iL" and "Ishte-aL"
Yep, that's where I heard them being thrown around almost interchangeably for every other issue or protest.
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I have seen many Pakistani news channels still using the words "Mushta-iL" and "Ishte-aL"
that is what I meant. They are used in journalism, but not in regular urdu.
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And please, dont give me lectures on peaceful protest. we Muslims dont know the meaning of that.
I dont need to give you a lecture when I just have to tell you that you are completely wrong. There are many examples of that.
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that was sarcasm which always has an element of exaggeration.
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I have seen many Pakistani news channels still using the words "Mushta-iL" and "Ishte-aL"
I think i heard word ishteal angez karnama............:D
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you are very bad at sarcasm 
but on the positive side, pretty good at exaggeration 
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I guess i have to learn the art from you :D
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peace meray bhai.....peace.
yes....if we were only this particular about reducing things to the lowest common denominator then we would not be where we are today.....
and why are we becoming so technical here......to me inappropriate priority is equal to and/or leads to shirk. why even tread close to that path?
It's not shirk not even close ... You can say the reaction was wrong, but it is not near worship ... if it was near worship then you are sort of saying that this violent reaction should have been done if Allah (SWT) was being mocked ... But you would agree with me that in neither case should the violent action be taken ... But I hope you also see that in either case it is not about worship but about feelings being hurt ... Not shirk nor near it and to say otherwise is actually doing takfir on others. And there is no gain in that when we should be unifying one another in this day and age.
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Psyah is determined to take this thread to 20 pages 