The murder of Dutch movie director Theo van Gogh comes two months after his highly controversial film, Submission - about the abuse of Muslim women - was shown on national TV in Holland
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The ‘poor’ guy was killed this morning by some Maroccan. He did insult the Islam on several occasions and made some really nasty comments on it aswell.
He knew he was provocing but was arrogant enough to continue.
The people here in Holland cant seem to understand the difference between freedom of speech and bluntly insulting a whole nation.
Freedom of speech is allowed as long as you dont hurt or insult any human being, group or race.
The people are more worked up because this other politician who was killed in 2002 because of his attitude towards muslims.
The strange thing is that Pim was killed by a man who was angry because pim said some things about killing animals for fur coats :smack:
Although it was proven that the assasin had nothing to do with Islam people were really hateful
I v been arguing for some hours with several guys on msn :o
I v included a screen shot
check his msn title
besides that almost all dutch forums are flooded with anti Islam threads
Now who needs to be blamed?
the renowned columnist/producer who insulted Islam on many occasions?
the government who sometimes allowes it and knows whats going on
the guy who shot him. ?
i heard abt that too . its very sad . well i tell u sth move to canada and u'll neva face problems like these. screw all these narrow minded eauropean natives. except england i guess. who are slightly betterthan the rest European countries.
Hoe ging het gesprek verder.. ? Jij bent vrienden met deze gast.. leuke vrienden heb je dan die weten dat jij ook moslim bent en zulke uitlatingen doen over je geloof.. wat een sukkel.. Maar we hebben nu meer te verduren.. zoals je al zei.. ze weten het verschil tussen meningsuiting en belediging niet.. als ik tegen iemand kankerjood zou zeggen zou ik een extremist gevonden worden..
Crescent: What would make you say something like that?
TeenDabbyWala: I have to agree with you on this. Okay, so he may not have been a really big fan of Islamic theory. But who is anyone to say that his death was a punishment? And who is anyone to revel in his death?
I'm sorry guys. If you think Islam is all about belligerence - its not.
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*Originally posted by PyariCgudia: *
Crescent: What would make you say something like that?
TeenDabbyWala: I have to agree with you on this. Okay, so he may not have been a really big fan of Islamic theory. But who is anyone to say that his death was a punishment? And who is anyone to revel in his death?
I'm sorry guys. If you think Islam is all about belligerence - its not.
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ok then cheif mufti of the universe tell us what is islam. i think i have missed the fatwa that abolished jihad, hudood and qital. next time you abolish another fundemantal aspect of islam please make it well publicised so we can hasten to follow the true version of islam.
Muslims in those days were under conditions nearing to genocide. The battles were self-defense. I’m sorry, but since when did this drunk-looking film-maker place the whole Ummah under genocidal conditions - aur woh bhi - single-handedly?
Please THINK before you post. Otherwise, you will get challenged on your statements.
so now there can never be any battles because revelation has ended, so we might as well show the other cheek cuz each and every battle must begin with DIRECT orders of allah.
actually…NOT…
islam showed that since allah’s orders are only revealed to rasuls, and we are not rasuls, we need to follow the guidelines set by allah and work with in. and war is such a matter..it does not require revelation to be started.
and if u want to read read about the killing of abu rafi…was he single handedly commiting genocide that he had to be assasinated by the direct orders of rasul :saw:???
thats good, you dont have to believe in those “stories” and keep loving kuffar, while we will keep loving allah and his rasul :saw: and the believers.
