Liberal Islam

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Re: Liberal Islam

@sweet.i.f

no matter how good a teacher is, or how long a legacy, people make their own decisions in the end. well, most of them anyway. i agree that there should be good guidance but ultimately it is an individual’s decision.

same here.

maybe liberal islam is modified to cater for western values or their concept of morality but i don’t think that’s limited to liberal islam. many muslims, whether they consider themselves devout or not, do end up compromising certain aspects. obviously it’s wrong, but people are prone to picking and choosing.. just that maybe some do it less than others. might be going off on a tangent but this is why i like the idea of ijtihad. being able to question and understand islamic issues is really important, rather than to follow blindly.

Peace sweet.i.f

The matter of deviancy from core understandings was well understood at the time of RasoolAllah (SAW) and throughout time. The way to mitigate the deviation is to put some measures in place … the measures we have are to maintain a chain of tutelage and for those who want to be teachers to be first given permission by their teachers to teach …

Yes people will still deviate but it will be more controlled than not to have any measures in place at all and it is possible there are still people living today with a pure enough understanding of Islam. The reason why science books have references is for that same reason - to provide referential back up and legitimacy. That is the reason why we have classification of hadith and that is the reason why we have certain hadith where ayaat of the Qur’an are being explained … Even the early community needed to have explanations and of the early community only about 10 people were muftis - not all the Sahabah would be in that position.

There is a hadith where it was forecasted that there will be 73 sects of Muslims only one of which is on Islam properly. The sign of this group is the one that is the majority … A majority can best exist when we learn how to submit ourselves to authorities that is Allah (SWT), RasoolAllah (SAW), The Sahabah (RA) and our Rightly Guided Ulema (RA) - who are not un-connected from that golden chain that goes back to the Prophet (SAW).

Ijtehad is not allowed for the commoner to do … the idea of “being able to question” is itself against the idea of “submission” - which is a central tenet in Islam. Questioning has an adab and a criteria and a limit which we should understand as people who submit to Allah (SWT) …