Lesbian/Gay

Lifestyle Relationships
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Hi Jia, just a reminder, still waiting for these verses. :)

When I grow up, I wanna be....
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ok i need to seriously ask people this questiion,im not homophobic
im friendly towards them but i dont wanna know anything about their private life like bf,gf or watever they have,but i dunno i m sort of naive that i just got to know about animals that are homosexuals,how can it be?will animals also face judgement

Creeped out
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Yup, Jia, still waiting.

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Re: Lesbian/Gay

Jazaka Allah , Safoora

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im sorry to say but i could not find this verse in Quran E Pak .

dear is it exist? r u clear? refrence?

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Yah, that sounds fine.

And what the Quran says does not address whether or not people are born that way. In my understanding, the Quran condemns sodomy as a sin.

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Re: Lesbian/Gay

i will stay as far as i can from them:bummer:

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i really dont mind htem..theryre human too..

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Yeah they are human but too much friendship with them is not good for us too.

Polish People are judging my parenting skills
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I would take it as a complement.
I think you should wear skimpy clothes ... bend over pick up stuff .. in front of that person lol

If they have certain emotions, its your friend who has to come to terms with them. There is nothing you can do about it. He / She was honest was a good thing - just tell 'em straight up you don't feel the same. As long he / she is in limits - just treat 'em as a friend, maybe you can help him / her.

**We still don't know if same sex attraction is phsycological or biological. **In general, nature does throw EVERYTHING at us. A person with both male and female parts ... or none at all - so it shouldn't be too hard to accept that phsycological nature of all kinds is also thrown into the world by nature :)

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Homosexuality is a sin. Men and women should abstain from any practice
of Homosexuality. Homosexuality is prohibited in Quran per the example of the people of Lot.
The following verses will make this clear, God willing.

** [7:80-81]** Lot said to his people, "You commit such an abomination; no one in the world has done it before! "You practice sex with the men, instead of the women. Indeed, you are a transgressing people." 

**[26:165-166] **"Do you have sex with the males, of all the people? "You forsake the wives that your Lord has created for you! Indeed, you are 
transgressing people."

The Quran forbids any sexual relationship other than in a marriage between a man and a woman. Many homosexual men and women claim that they are born with their sexual preferences and that they have no choice. Although this point is very much in dispute in the medical world, it has no support in the Quran. Even then, irrespective of the nature of homosexuality, this matter would not affect the laws spelled out clearly in the Quran .

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We know that this life is a test. Everyone of us has his/her own test.
For example someone may be born blind, but that person is expected to live his/her life according to God’s law. Others are born poor, short, tall, weak, missing fingers, having big nose…etc but all of them are expected to follow God’s law. Some men or women may never marry in their life, or spend part of their life without a spouse. As per the Quran they still have to live a chaste life and avoid any sexual contacts outside a marriage. They have to suppress their sexual feelings to follow God’s law.

It is a major test and not an easy one for many. Only those who submit to God will do everything they can to follow His law. They know that their salvation and eternal happiness rests in doing so.     

 Since God condemns homosexuality, then we have to believe that a man or a woman with homosexual feelings  is expected     to behave like any other human being and follows God's laws if     he/she truely believes in them. He/she shall resist his/her feelings , maintains abstinence ,     use all available resources of help including medical, social and behavioral therapies to overcome their behavior and feelings.
  
They should pray to God to help them getting over it and submit to God's     law that sees homosexuality as gross sin. Only those who steadfastly persevere in obeying God's law will they pass their test and confirm their     submission to God.  

 For a person who asks, "why me?" We know God is the Most Merciful and Just (16:90) **and He will give each one of us a fair test and a fair chance. He assigns the tests to suite each one of us and we believe that He will never burden any soul beyond its means (23:2).

**
** [17:89] ** We have cited for the people in this Quran all kinds of examples, but most people insist upon disbelieving.
** [18:54] **We have cited in this Quran every kind of example, but the human being is the most argumentative creature.
** [39:27] ** We have cited for the people every kind of example in this Quran, that they may take heed.

 The spouses that God have made from among ourselves     are those that aid in producing children. Since the spouses in homosexual relationship would not     produce children they are not the spouses God made from among     ourselves.     
 
     ** [16:72]  **   And GOD made for you spouses from among yourselves, and produced for     you from your spouses children and grandchildren, and provided you with good provisions. Should they believe in falsehood, and turn unappreciative     of GOD's blessings?          
 
 With regard to dealing with homosexuals, the basic     rule governing this would  be 60:8 & 9.     **[60:8-9]  **   GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable. GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors.           However, to be a winner we have to advocate righteousness     and 
forbid evil.     
 
 **     [3:104] **    Let there be a community of you who invite to what is good, advocate righteousness, and forbid evil. These are the winners.          
      **[3:110]  **   You are the best community ever raised among the people: you advocate     
righteousness and forbid evil, and you believe in GOD. If the followers of     
the scripture believed, it would be better for them. Some of them do believe,     
but the majority of them are wicked.          

     ** [9:71]  **   The believing men and women are allies of one another. They advocate     
righteousness and forbid evil, they observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) 
and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and they obey GOD and His 
messenger. These will be showered by GOD's mercy. GOD is 
Almighty, Most Wise.     
 
 Also, if God so wills, a reminder may benefit the     person.     
 
      ** [6:69]  **   The righteous are not responsible for the utterances of those people,     but it may help to remind them; perhaps they may be saved.          
    **  [87:9]**          Therefore, you shall remind; perhaps the reminder will benefit.     I hope the above has been helpful, God willing. If you desire further clarification please do not hesitate to write to us.

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^ oh no!..not u again..:smack:

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All i can say is two guyz french kissing YUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
BUT
Two girls french kissing WOOOOOOOOW ;-)

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ur disgusting dude:disgust:

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I 2nd that. lol

On serious note, unless people enjoy being persecuted why would anyone pick to be gay/lesbian in any society...when homosexuality is looked down on in every society? So, it has to be genetic.

The Return of Kasauti (Kasauti I)
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I dnt feel comfortable with them, There was a gay boy in my class–he was bare safe but I always tried my level best to avoid him :bummer:

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shamraaz khan, people dont choose its psychological alright. mind plays tricks, they start liking people near them and they thnk they are lesbian or gays. sometimes is their luck that the people they like also reciprocate and then they start calling themselves lesbian or gays the other time they do not so they hide their feelings and do not declare themselves to be homosexuals. also there are other factors which provoke someone to start liking someone who is close to them and a girl/guy.. like parents being strict, not enough interaction with the opposite gender and sex, not enough education, beatings,mental torture, easy availablity etc etc etc

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Janu Jia, I'm very disappointed.

Would you marry a guy who had cheated on his ex?
Would you marry a guy who had cheated on his ex?
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I am still pondering about this one - what does this really means. A child born in ethopia and died around age 3 because of hunger/thirst. His whole family died in front of him of hunger. etc.
Could that kid / his family bear that burden? Was that just? People who commit suicide - is that not the ultimate sign that they couldn't handle the pressure / burden?

I am not asking you to answer (because I have read all the religions answers and I am not fully satisfied). Maybe I need to come to terms with this - I dunno.

Anyway, I never sided homo.S or encouraged it. Never said it is OK.
But bottom line is , we do not know if its phycy or its biological. We need to know - after that we can decide what is the best course of action to take towards them.
If its pshychological, then they need help. They can be helped to improve their understanding and they can change the way they thinkg about things.

If its biological, then its beyond they control. They may need medical assistance and people will need to be understanding that this is something they didn't choose. Its a life-long test or somefin . If they do falls short, we (society) needs ot help them to get back on their feet and help them fight the urges. PEACEFULLY!

I think we should look to live peacefully with everyone - regardless of difference of opinion / religion and beliefs. :)

Just my 2c.