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Gemayel was also VERY anti-Syrian.
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Hezbullah uses all sorts of deceptions. This is a blog of a photojournalist, explaining how TIME magazine used his pictures to claim that Hezbullah had downed an Israeli jet, which was later disproven. Note that the photojournalist shows how close the Hezbullah missles were to a Lebanese Army barracks. Of course hitting the Lebanese army would rain all kinds of crap on the Israelis. The pictures show a pretty accurate set of hits on Hezbullah missles. Qana was a tragedy. Maybe Muslims should hold Hezbullah to account for why innocents are unwittingly used as human shields by these fighters.
http://www.lightstalkers.org/the__garbage_dump__story__complete_explanation
And Hezbullah is not a religious organization? I would believe you other than the Cleric/Warlord running it, and the worlds most radical Islamic Theocracy supporting it. The rest are just sucked in by social services designed to buy loyalty while subverting the legitimate governments authority.
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There is nothing really to investigate.
Innocent people were massacared by an American supplied F-16 using an American supplied Bomb with a pilot who probably had training in USA.
And Hezbollah used crowded areas to fire their rockets knowing that if Israel attacked, innocent people will die and Israel will get blamed for their deaths.
This reminds me of a careless mother (Hezbollah) who leaves her child (Lebanese People) in a car (Crowded Area) on a hot day when she goes shopping (Attacking Israel).
If a child dies (Lebanese civilians being killed) from the heat (Israel). Whose fault is it?
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Innocent people were massacred by an American supplied F-16 using an American supplied Bomb with a pilot who probably had training in USA.
And Hezbollah used crowded areas to fire their rockets knowing that if Israel attacked, innocent people will die and Israel will get blamed for their deaths.
This reminds me of a careless mother (Hezbollah) who leaves her child (Lebanese People) in a car (Crowded Area) on a hot day when she goes shopping.
If a child dies from the heat (Israel). Whose fault is it?
You are right,there is nothing to investigate, Israel has been given the green light to commit such massacres and if the world condemns such acts or try to stop it through UN, guess who vetoes it and gives them more time to continue to commit such acts.
As for hezbollah launching rockets from civilian areas this propaganda line is now so old, boring and embarrasing, need to come up with a new one. No one buys it apart form Israel its supporters and Fox news.
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No offence but I guess all the US channels should invite you to their newsrooms because even they have stopped saying this kinda stuff now.
These are the old excuses. Israel needs to bring new excuses now.
Innocent people were massacared by an American supplied F-16 using an American supplied Bomb with a pilot who probably had training in USA.
And Hezbollah used crowded areas to fire their rockets knowing that if Israel attacked, innocent people will die and Israel will get blamed for their deaths.
This reminds me of a careless mother (Hezbollah) who leaves her child (Lebanese People) in a car (Crowded Area) on a hot day when she goes shopping (Attacking Israel).
If a child dies (Lebanese civilians being killed) from the heat (Israel). Whose fault is it?
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And Hezbollah used crowded areas to fire their rockets knowing that if Israel attacked, innocent people will die and Israel will get blamed for their deaths.
Let me reword this stupid example that you have picked:
If 1 terrorist attacks you, then goes and hides in a crowd of 50 civilians, you would bomb the crowd of 50 civilians, hoping that the 1 terrorist is killed as well.
knowing that if Israel attacked, innocent people will die and Israel will get blamed for their deaths
Is Israel too dumb to realize this?
For a country with the "mightiest" military in the region & "highly skilled" soldiers, surely there must be an alternative, no?
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Israelis did it!
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the only one who gives them the green light to commit such acts are hezbollah
You mean to tell me that hezbollah is launching rockets from the middle of an uninhabited area where they can be easily spotted and taken out?
Actually everyone has acknowledged it and accepted it....
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What excuse is that?
Hezbollah fires rocket from build up areas to make it harder for Israel to find them and target them and make Israel think twice because its a build up area full of civilians
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If 1 terrorist attacks you, then goes and hides in a crowd of 50 civilians, you would bomb the crowd of 50 civilians, hoping that the 1 terrorist is killed as well.
Thats a tough question because what kind of damage can that terrorist do has to be weighed by the collateral damage that will result in killing him
For a country with the "mightiest" military in the region & "highly skilled" soldiers, surely there must be an alternative, no?
Israel may have the mightest military but not the most skilled.
Most of Israel's military is made up of 18 and 19 year old kids and there are only about 20,000 professional soldiers and the rest are all reservists given that Israel only has 5 million people.
This conflict proved that many Israeli soldiers who fought in Lebanon had poor training. Israel is now addressing these flaws
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Except of course that the BBC and Amnesty are reporting it as fact:
“Amnesty found that Hezbollah hid Katyusha rockets among civilians and often fired them into Israel from the cover of civilian villages.”
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What kind of damage did the terrorists do with the missiles they fired from dense civilian areas? At most, they killed a few Israeli civilians because their missiles were inaccurate, or maybe the shot a plane down which killed 1-2 pilots.. or maybe the shot a tank which killed 3-4 crewmen. Is that weight enough to kill a off a large group of civilians on the other side? Say.. 50 civilians in a residential building?
Israel may have the mightest military but not the most skilled.
Most of Israel's military is made up of 18 and 19 year old kids and there are only about 20,000 professional soldiers and the rest are all reservists given that Israel only has 5 million people.
This conflict proved that many Israeli soldiers who fought in Lebanon had poor training. Israel is now addressing these flaws
For these reasons, it is okay for Israel to bomb civilians hoping that a terrorist will be killed as well. Right?
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Very conveniently, you forgot the next bit. lemme put it up for you.
*As well as highlighting the issue of cluster bombs, Amnesty found that Hezbollah hid Katyusha rockets among civilians and often fired them into Israel from the cover of civilian villages.
** But researchers found no evidence that Hezbollah actually used civilians as human shields during the fighting.
*Interesting how you manipulate stuff for your own purposes OG, it does more damage to whats left of your credibility, if any.
secondly, the whole article is majorly critical of israel’s tactics in war. yet you manage to over look all that and focus on one sentence near the end that mentions hezbullah. selective reading at its best methinks.
well heres some essential stuff, that you may have overlooked:
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*As well as highlighting the issue of cluster bombs, Amnesty found that Hezbollah hid Katyusha rockets among civilians and often fired them into Israel from the cover of civilian villages.
** But researchers found no evidence that Hezbollah actually used civilians as human shields during the fighting.
*Interesting how you manipulate stuff for your own purposes OG, it does more damage to whats left of your credibility, if any.
secondly, the whole article is majorly critical of israel's tactics in war. yet you manage to over look all that and focus on one sentence near the end that mentions hezbullah. selective reading at its best methinks.
well heres some essential stuff, that you may have overlooked:
You honestly mean to tell me that if Hezbollah had more advanced and deadly weaponry which could kill hundreds of Israeli civilians that they wont use those weapons?
Isnt it not about what kind of weapons they possess but the intent?
Hezbollah purposfully fired missiles into Israeli cities and when they killed Israeli Arabs, they apologized, so their intent was to only kill Jews.
That tells me that Hezbollah if it had more powerful weaponry to wipe out all the Jews in Israel would go ahead and do it.
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^ No, If Hezbollah had more powerful weaponary it would have a very sobering effect on the Israelis and for once they would behave like decent human beings and not the "trigger happy killers" that they are now.
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Isnt it not about what kind of weapons they possess but the intent?
Hezbollah purposfully fired missiles into Israeli cities and when they killed Israeli Arabs, they apologized, so their intent was to only kill Jews.
That tells me that Hezbollah if it had more powerful weaponry to wipe out all the Jews in Israel would go ahead and do it.
You my friend seem to be in your own world.
since when were we talking about what hizbullah might do if it had stronger weapons? thats pretty futile and irrelevent to what happened this past summer.
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I did not forget anything, there used to be rules here about derailing threads. I was responding to one outrageously false statement for which there was a quick and simple response.
If you would like to include all of the related news, please include the news release calling each and every launch of a rocket at Israeli by Hezbullah a War Crime. Speaking of War Crimes, don't exclude the conclusion yesterday that Hamas' call to surround an Israeli target in Gaza constitutes a War Crime. You might as well include the 80 rockets from Gaza that have bombarded the civilian town of Sderot this week too. The fact that this particular article appeared to be more critical of Israel is evidence of BBC bias, nothing more.
As you can see, my response was not intended to expand the discussion, or I might have mentioned the above items. I simply meant to dismiss a clear lie as false.
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My, my how truth hurts.
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i see, but what does the amnesty report have to do with bbc being bias? it wasnt bbc that conducted the report was it..?
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^^Say what?
Originally Posted by ehsan
As for hezbollah launching rockets from civilian areas this propaganda line is now so old, boring and embarrasing, need to come up with a new one. **No one buys it apart form Israel its supporters and Fox news.**
Except of course that the BBC and Amnesty are reporting it as fact:
"Amnesty found that Hezbollah hid Katyusha rockets among civilians and often fired them into Israel from the cover of civilian villages."
Is this unclear un anyway? Could one possibly fire missles from a civilian area without endangering the civilians that were there? This is not a figment of Fox's imagination. This is how Qana happened. But Muslims are so enthralled with their power trip that they care not how they win a victory. Screw the civilians.
Now, if you don't mind, before you interupted, I was marvelling at the Jews abilities to kill 144 people in Iraq today by convincing Muslims to kill one another......