No blakie, it means the total cost to complete underarms will be between $450 and $1000. An average underarm is completed in 6 to 8 hours total treatment time providing the hairs are being killed first time (i.e. treated follicles won't produce 'regrow' a hair). Fino Gior is one of the few electrologist's I know of that aims to finish the work within an estimated total number of hours. Most electrologists will take many more hours and therefore more total cost.
I had 6 laser sessions on my underarms at about £80 per session and didn't get 100% hair removal from that. So it's cheaper and more effective than if you were doing laser as well.
Be careful with the upper lip.. just have a test patch to start with and see how you get on. As I said, I'm not sure about their method or equipment and you need to be super careful with your face. If it's old school thermolysis they are using... you may be better off with blend or someone with a modern epilator that allows new thermolysis modes.
One electrologist once commented that the electrologist's who are killing follicles, get the same total treatment times no matter what method, electrolysis modality or equipment they are using. Gior's times match exactly with my current electrologist. My sister had very heavy sideburn hair and her TTT there was less than 5 hours.
I'm so glad I live close to Fino's clinic, bless the hair gods. I read on this thread that women regained the hair that laser had removed after/during pregnancy. Is that plausible with electrolysis as well. I don't wanna wait 10 years :(
Electrolysis completely destroys the hair producing capability of the follicle and it's replaced by scar tissue.
As has only been classed as 'permanent hair reduction' for a number of reasons, one being that it may only render the follicles dormant... it depends on the kind of injury the laser energy causes to the follicle... which there is no control over. Dormant follicles can still produce hairs again later.
Personally, I've noticed a huge difference in the way the skin is after Laser and after electrolysis. Laser is just the absence of hair. After electrolysis, there is no follicle. About a year after electrolysis (providing the treatments were top notch) however and the skin really smooths out because the follicles are gone too.
I only had electrolysis for the remaining 30% underarm hair (didn't have anything for about 2 years after Laser) but I wish I did the whole lot with electrolysis. My underarm skin has improved so much since the electrolysis, I can only imagine how perfect it would have been if I had done it all with electro.
I did laser on my face and the outcome seemed to be perfect ... now two months later the hair has grown back and is a bit worse .. majority of the laser treatments I have done on my body is still gone. Now I dont know what to do because im getting married in 5 months and I want the hair on my face be completely gone by then ... any tips? I used to do electrolysis but that takes forever and I dont think I will see a difference in 5 months
Hey Stoppit- I had a consult today with a laser clinic in waltham, MA that carries the cynosure Apogee Elite laser. They determined that for my skin type, the YAG 1064 wavelength would be used. In your experience, is that effective enough ? they charge $175 for brazilian bikini (if you get their 5 session package) which is a pretty decent deal.
Also do you know if a good electrologist in Massachusetts or even providence?
Lasers have fixed wavelengths. The Nd:YAG Laser is 1064nm, the Alexandrite is 755nm. They have picked the YAG because of your darker skin type (IV and above). So far, this has nothing to do with potentially effective settings. Effectiveness comes down to spot size, pulse width and joules used during the treatment. They could actually treat you with an Alexandrite too but it's rare because they have to be a lot more careful to avoid burns.
You really need to have a consultation and test patch before deciding.
^Thanks for the advice. I am still mulling over whether i want to go the laser option or find a good electrologist. I’ve suffered from stimulated hair growth in the past on my bikini area which is my primary concern at this point. I’ll do some more research and get additional consults before making my final decision.
I would urge anyone considering either options to spend some time on this forum as it has a wealth of information regarding both procedures including patient success/failure stories. It’s also frequented by professionals who give pretty good advice.
Fantastic thread & very informative, though I need some advice - I've been offered a course of 6 IPL laser treatments for 3 areas of my choice for less than £100 (a discount of 95% apparently). This isn't some dodgy email I've received or anything lol but it's an actual reputable deal from a well-known discount/deals site.
The problem is, I know IPL is not permanent but for the price, should I go for it anyway? Or do I risk doing more harm than good? I can't help but think I'd make my money back by just saving 3 of my regular waxing sessions and any reduction in hair is better than no reduction right? Also, when people say IPL is not permanent, does that mean that all the hair (ie pre-treatment) will eventually all come back (and then be the same as it was before) or do they mean that hair does still grow but its more fine?
Oh, and if anyone has any advice they can give on using IPL for a Hollywood?
Great thread. So glad to find it. I started with laser and actually had good results under my arms but mixed results on my face. I have both fine hair and thick hair on my face. She used a very long pulse for me because I am a type 4. Even though my upper lip had fine hair, it worked. The laser tech told me that it worked for my upper lip because the hairs were so shallow that the wavelength was able to penetrate even though the hairs were very fine. It helped that these fine hairs were darker than my skin and shallow. The problem was, the laser stimulated hair growth on my face. It did not make the hairs thicker, it just caused more growth. Ugh. I then did some research and found info. about laser stimulated hair growth.
I am now in electrolysis and am going far more often. Laser was every 6 weeks and electrolysis is every week. I have so much growth that I am still working on a first clearing but so far, so good. It looks like it completely eliminated the hair growth on my chin and now she is on my sideburns.
It took a long time, after years of threading, to feel brave enough to do laser and electrolysis. I ended up meeting with about 4 laser places and also met with a few electrologists before finding the right fit for me. You gotta go and meet with these people and get short treatments before you commit.
what do you do with the hair that comes back when you are waiting for the next session. i am considering to do laser treatment but i am wondering what to do if you have to wait for so long with hair on face. i am a professional and need to look hygienic and good for my work. i cant walk around with hair on my chin. at the moment i wax and thread away whatever comes out.
Your only option, which the clinic should inform you of, is to shave it. But I would not recommend continual shaving because then you can't monitor shedding and regrowth.
Love this thread! I have laser treatments done on my full arms, full legs, Brazilian/bikini and underarms and have been for about 12 months now. I honestly couldn't be happier with the results. While it is a bit painful (and pricey!) the long terms effects are certainly worth it.
The level of discomfort depends on the treated area, the texture of the hair and skin. Darker skin people are more sensitive because they have more pigment, not just in the hair, but in their skin as well. Patients with dark and coarse hair experience more discomfort as well. After each treatment, the hair becomes lighter or thinner and the pain subsides, which makes it easier to handle the laser.
My years of experiences have taught me: Negotiate, Negotiate & Negotiate!
You will be amazed on how much you can save on these laser treatments.
There is a lot of competition which means we can always get a good deal. Learn the machines/technology they use, sound a little smart and save hundreds of dollars :)
Great thread. So glad to find it. I started with laser and actually had good results under my arms but mixed results on my face. I have both fine hair and thick hair on my face. She used a very long pulse for me because I am a type 4. Even though my upper lip had fine hair, it worked. The laser tech told me that it worked for my upper lip because the hairs were so shallow that the wavelength was able to penetrate even though the hairs were very fine. It helped that these fine hairs were darker than my skin and shallow. The problem was, the laser stimulated hair growth on my face. It did not make the hairs thicker, it just caused more growth. Ugh. I then did some research and found info. about laser stimulated hair growth.
I am now in electrolysis and am going far more often. Laser was every 6 weeks and electrolysis is every week. I have so much growth that I am still working on a first clearing but so far, so good. It looks like it completely eliminated the hair growth on my chin and now she is on my sideburns.
It took a long time, after years of threading, to feel brave enough to do laser and electrolysis. I ended up meeting with about 4 laser places and also met with a few electrologists before finding the right fit for me. You gotta go and meet with these people and get short treatments before you commit.
Hi if you don't mind me asking, who do you go for electrolysis? I realized you're in NY too.