lol stupid title i know…but I just realized i believe something without knowing where i got it from. I always thought it was ok for the guy who wants to marry some girl to see her, but i just heard in pakistan(in my very own family) they think its bad for the guy to even SEE her. I am not talkin about dating or anything, just seeing the girl with family offcourse but I always thought that even if you do pardah, its ok for the guy to see u, even without the hijab. I need ayahs or hadiths where i got this from?
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Baghair dekhay tao Islam mein paani peena mana hai, shaadi tao door ki baat 
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Leh dass…
Lagta hai kisi ne paani peenay ka Islamic tareeqa naheen bataya bachpan mein 
Here goes:
- U must be sitting down
- U must not drink in a hurry
- U must examine the water before drinking
- U must use your right hand to drink
- U must drink in three sips with breaths in between
I can’t be bothered to provide sources right now. In fact, it’s such a commonly known fact, u dun even need a source for it. Just go and ask ur mum or something 
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You are supposed to see your wife before marrying her. Vice versa as well. I dont know why we desis are like this. Bidaaaaaaaaa
In my family, some members like to keep up the tradition that the guy and girl shouldn't talk - they just show photos and make it happen that way.
Dumbarses.
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Sheesh. Larkiyo mar khaao ghi tum sub. Joking.
Yeah of course a guy can see the woman and vice versa. They can even talk and get to know each other. Shocking isnt it? Dont be mixing culture with religion. Tsk tsk.
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well nuttin wrong with that, a guy shud see her future wife...
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^ yah, you dont wanna marry some fugly guy.. n viceversa..
people in my family talk (on msn n probably on the phone) with thier future spouses.
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Do u buy cars without driving it? Or u just look at it, or talk to it? or read its manual?
Hey guys and girls, u should go all the way, beore getting married. Living together for about 6 months, should be the least requirement.
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^ haha i would love to see a paki person tellin their parents that !! but seriously how do u know you can live with a person your entire life if you can barely talk to them and you hardly know them.. ugh..
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Well, thats the point. Your marriage has nothing to do with ur parents approval. and whoever ur living with, it is ur personal business.
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^ wow are you paki?? thats so cool ive never meet anyone like you..or maybe i have and they dont tell me all there beliefs n stuff..
-i would still marry a guy, even if my parents didnt want me to.
but my parents would probably let me marry whoever i wanted to, its those relatives in pakistan with all their problems, and standards...
- so would you/ have you lived with a finacee without your parents knowing??
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Islamically the girl needs a wali's permission. But the girl cannot be forced to marry someone. Thus it is the girls choice but a wali (her father, then brother and so on) needs to give permission.
Islamically there's nothing wrong with the guy seeing the girl before marriage as long as it is in the proper way.
TJ, a lot of people are well..jealous. I know this first hand. Let it bother you not.
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i know i know i know…but i was asking for proof n why u guys believe that 
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whats the "proper way" ???
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:rotfl:
Times have changed or is it just the weather? Latest from the land of pure…
http://jang.com.pk/thenews/index.html
Forcing woman to marry against
her will un-Islamic: Saudi mufti
*Our special correspondent
*ISLAMABAD: Saudi Arabia’s Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz has strongly come out against the practice of forcing women to marry against their will and called for imprisonment of violators, Saudi press reported.
“Anyone who insists on forcing a woman to marry against her will is disobeying God and His Prophet Muhammad (PBUH),” grand mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz, who heads the Council of Senior Islamic Scholars, said.
“Forcing a woman to marry someone she does not want and preventing her from wedding someone she chooses is not permissible,” he said. The grand mufti’s call evoked positive reaction among women in Saudi Arabia, who greatly welcomed the move, saying it was a “wake-up” call. They also hoped that a mechanism would be set up to monitor and help those who come out against such practices.
Sheikh Abdul Aziz said anyone who does not give up this pre-Islamic practice “should be punished by imprisonment and should not be released until he drops his demand, which contravenes the provisions of Shariah.”
Violators should be kept behind bars until they commit to “refrain from aggressing the woman, her legal tutor and the man she marries, and until the chief of their tribe or another influential member of the tribe guarantees that they will comply with this and refrain from aggression,” the mufti said.
Fatin Bundagji, Director of Women’s Empowerment and Research at the Jeddah Chamber of Commerce and Industry, welcomed the fatwa (religious edict). “It is a cultural problem that has to be addressed. Some people tend to take cultural beliefs as part of tradition and this is wrong. The mufti is acknowledging this confusion, and his fatwa might help in preventing cases of divorce. Mutual consent and compatibility in a marriage are important,” she said.
“Now the next step should be taken by the society – it should pick up the fatwa and make sure it is enacted, and women should also be aware of their rights in marriage,” Fatin Bundagji said.
Asma Siddiki, Vice Dean, Effat College, said that it is unfortunate that such basic rights that are “given to us” in Islam have to be reiterated in order to address a minority that takes pleasure in suppressing women’s rights.
Lawyer Ms Mais Abu Dalbouh was tempered in her reaction while welcoming the fatwa. “We are assuming that the daughter is ready to lodge a complaint. Realistically speaking, if daughter does that, she may be subjected to more pressure from the family. Also what will be the mechanism used to apply the edict?”
She cited the example of inheritance to back up her claim. “There have been cases of male members denying inheritance rights to female family members. And in those cases many of the disinherited are afraid to make a case of it, even though it is a given right in Islam.” The lawyer said if they had the freedom to choose in the first place the issue of force would not be there at all.
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excuse me for not providign the exact reference, but according to sahih hadith, a sahabi came to the Prophet (saw) and told him that he was getting married....
the Prophet (saw) asked him if he had seen the girl to which he replied negative....
so the Prophet (saw) told him to first see the girl and then finalize the marriage.....
it is always better for the person to see the girl so as not to cause problems in relation later on....
but he must see her in presence of a wali and i guess general inquiries wud be acceptable....
but sitting for an hour long discussion in solitude with the girl is out of question....
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My parents tried to set me up with a rishta as well, she was cute but a bit too young for my liking (im 20 and she's 16). it's not for me as of this time. right now i'm having to much fun dating more than one girl at a time, because if you're not married to someone then there is no legitimate reason to be faithful to them. and they know it. once i get married, then I will have to be faithful.
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^
so u can be faithful to ur wife but will not be faithful to Allah and will continue dating girls even when He forbids it???
a man of such unfaithful character and yet he has the nerve to sling mud on the character of the companions of the prophet (saw)… :nono:
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hey i didn't kill anybody like those companions you speak of. and i never said i was this pious man. and there isn't any mudslinging. it's called quoting historical facts.