Lal Masjid Siege Thread - Operation Silence (merged)

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

Agree with you FOL

Why hasn't the government done any operation against 90, the terrorrist MQM is allowed to run havoc, as long as it serves the interest of government.

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

*can we leave the focus of this thread on Lal Masjid. *

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

Thats debateable - but both have one thing common - prrsent govt. have used both to serve its purpose!

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

The military&agencies itself is the root cause of this insanity that we are watching today. For a decade young boyz were preached Jihad, trained for few weeks and sent to Afghanistan for US interests. A whole generation of people have been destroyed by this simplistic ideology and result is scores of young men who know nothing but fighting.

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

the mullahs have been arrested in the past without a single bullet being fired!!!! and btw i dont think u r aware of the whole situation...the rangers had surrounded the mosque 3-4 days before this 'drama' started.

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

"someone's" else interest then..."someone's" else interest now... we will AGAIN have to bear the consequences of whats being done today...many be after a decade or so....i feel sorry for this nation.

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

What u say is correct but not complete. The state of Pakistan (SOP) has preached jihad, ideology of militancy was propagated for decades to serve their immediate needs. Having said that, its always a two way relationship, Mullas also found this relationship to their benefit and milked every military Govt to serve their interests. These mullas are not school going kids who did not know what they were doing, on the contrary they adopted a pateint compromise policy that would gradually and surely help their agenda. From a political strategic perspective, these mullas have shown to be extremely shrewed and resolute politicians who have always stayed true to their political agenda.

What we have today, is also a combination of petrodollars, drug money and klashinkof culture that again was promoted by the state and their allies ie the Mulla brigade.

AUNTY AZIZ and his other cross dressers are a classic example how state ideology is changing while traditional and degenrate forces are resisting that change.

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

It is so sad that crazy LIFTas have hijacked the legitimate struggle of Kashmiris. There was never a need to kill Hindus or Sikhs in Kashmir.

Lallu-Burqaposh-Mullah Aziz types are only good to threaten innocent civilians in the name of Wahabis.

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

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What u say is correct but not complete. The state of Pakistan (SOP) has preached jihad, ideology of militancy was propagated for decades to serve their immediate needs. Having said that, its always a two way relationship, Mullas also found this relationship to their benefit and milked every military Govt to serve their interests. These mullas are not school going kids who did not know what they were doing, on the contrary they adopted a pateint compromise policy that would gradually and surely help their agenda. From a political strategic perspective, these mullas have shown to be extremely shrewed and resolute politicians who have always stayed true to their political agenda.

What we have today, is also a combination of petrodollars, drug money and klashinkof culture that again was promoted by the state and their allies ie the Mulla brigade.

AUNTY AZIZ and his other cross dressers are a classic example how state ideology is changing while traditional and degenrate forces are resisting that change.
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^State ideology has not changed at all, state ideology is to serve the American interest and stay in power.

Its true that some of the present day Mullahs act like Mafia bosses, but what has made young men to be framed by them is state propagated idology of 80's.

The state is still doing this operation for its "image" and not for the safety of people, for if it gived a flying rats behind to citzens life, it wud nto be in bed with terrorrist MQM.

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

Serve American interest? This is a very old line, every opposition says the same. Assuming this is correct, even then it is in Pakistans inetrest to rid of these terrorist mullas, this sud have been done long time ago, but as they say dair aye durast aye.

State needed a forum to promote their ideology, and they found a very receptive source in the Mulla and we can see the end result in the form of Lal Masjid/Wana fiasco.

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

Communism is dead and so is the need to have rabid Mullahs

LIFTa Mullahs do not realize that the world around them has changed. There was only one reason why they were propagated by Pakistan, financed by Saudis, and supported by CIA. And that reason was "Commie threat".

Now that Commies are long gone, Mullahs must calm down. Otherwise they will be continually hunted down all over the world.

Even chunnoo munnu Lebanese army just killed hundreds of MATooz belonging to Fatiha-al-Islam.

Anyone supporting lallu Maulvis of Lal Masjid belong to the anarchist Islamic movements. They will be picked up soon by CIA, FBI, MI5, and ISI.

The end of Mullahs is coming and coming fast. These Mullahs will surely bring terror to the masses, but they are all on their way to Shaddad's Jannat.

peace,

Salaam, Shalom, Namaste, Sat Sari Akaal

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

Bhai, aap yahaan kuch bhool rahay hou. Try to remember. Same was happening with that another dumbo, Akbar Bugti.

Negotiation was going on with him and kept going on for ages. Government kept delaying hard tactics and Shujaat was working deals. Try to remember that at the time when some explosives went off in the cave where Bugti was hiding, there were some army personals negotiating with him inside and they also got killed as the cave collapsed.

Govt men presence inside meant that government forces did not blew that cave, it was an accident that happened from inside.

So, what these dumbs of red building is getting, lot of tolerance from the government for them, same happened with Bugti. Well, even people in Waziristan had good deal. If it was intolerant government, they would have used Airforce in the area extensively, as no government could allow state within state. Still, there is no indiscriminate continuous bombing in the area by Pakistan government.

compare Waziristan fiasco with Bhutto actions in 1973. Waziristan are challenging the writ of the government. In 1973 Bhutto disolved elected government of Baluchistan resulting in revolt in Balochistan. What Bhutto did? No negotiation, rather Bhutto unleashed armed forces under Tikka Khan, who was bombing them through out the operation that lasted until 1977 and when Zia came, he went on negotiating table, resulting in revolt to stop.

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

Yes, you miss the crucial bit, that Zia was the person prodding for the continuation of military action in Balochistan..as soon as he took over he changed his tune. It's a basic policy of military rulers in pakistan to put pressure on civilians if they are seen as too soft on "issues of national interest" so Nawaz retreating from Kargil means he should be overthrown, Mush (and other dictators) retreats pretty much everywhere and he is a pragmatist!

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

Whats the latest?

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

So Mush says outright in clear terms wearing his camo during the trips to the flood affected areas while flanked by Lt Gen Retd Farooq Ahmed Khan;

"...in logo ko chahiye ke surrender kar dein, warna main abhi keh raha hun yeh, maare jaeyin ge...!"

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

Could this be a signal to end it tonight?

The only part suffering the most now are the G-6 residents and shop owners. They are truly miserable for the past 4 days. It has to end asap, out of mercy on them if nothing else.

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

^ coming from a nation's leader...
these words leave a bad taste in the mouth
he sounds more like a galli mohallay ka badmaash - rather then a leader of a nation

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

But after all this much drama how else could he put it?

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

Man this verse has been hovering in my mind for the past 3 days too!

Poor Allama Iqbal would never have thought there could ever be such an ironic interpretation to it :hehe:

I coined a parody too for these ironic *Ghazi *brethren as well as Qazi and all so-called Qazi/Mullah kind;

  • "Ye Ghazi/Qazi ye tere purasraar bandey
    jinhein tu ne bakhsha hai zoq-e-dramai

himaqat hai matloob-o-maqsood e omen
na koi haqeeqat, na tasweer khichayi"*

:smiley:

Re: Breaking News: Paramilitary Police clash with Lal Mosque idiots!

Bhaand Sahib, what would you rather expect him to say? The nation has been under siege by a bunch of LIFTas and Ninja trutle danda bardars. There have been repeated appeals to leave the mosque.

Still the beardos insist on holding hostages and using women and children as human shields.

We are all sick and tired of the Mullahs running rough shod bidduin and tribal style. It is time to prove that mad Arabism and tribalism won't be tolerated in Pakistan and should be said in clear terms.

Anyone saying this is badmashi of the government, then they must be living in a cave sitting in the lap of Ben-La-Deen or Eiman-zaya-hiri.

Down with the LIFTas.