Lahore Incident, Terrorist attack or Targeted secular violence

This is a common phrase in pakistan these days PAKISTAN DUAWON PE CHAL RAHA HAI.

there is a lot pure hearted ehle Iman Pakistani, May Allah Tallah save Pakitan from evil minded sick mentality. Ameen

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@Ambassdor

why u want jungle animals to be distrubed...

the person u mention They are still living in stone era, worst then old arab jahils.
I recommend moutain arreas they will be surely happy there

I agree completely.

I ask the mods to review cricketplaya's posts and decide whether or not he should be allowed to continue to spread hatred on these threads. People have opened these threads to express their grief over the loss of their loved ones. Many non-ahmadi posters have shared that grief. Unfortuantely some posters, especially cricketplaya, have done nothing but posted hateful comments. The GS community should not stand and watch in silence as such posters openely support the actions of extremists AND pass illogical and disrespectful comments against the teachings of other faiths.

And in case you are silent because you belive in 'freedom of speech'. Don't let yourself be confused, 'freedom of speech' should not conflict with values that reflect tolerance, compassion for humanity, and equality for all.

I've already shared my sympathies. I'm just going with the conversation.

Wow, your lack of belief in prayer shows your sad mentality. Like I said earlier, grow up.

I agree with naqsa...

It does. Please read the news.

Lol..you really do need to brush up on education. There is no such thing as qadianism. Ahmadi = muslim sect. Please read up before making yourself look uneducated.

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You have not answered my question. I am dying to hear your answer:

Where in the Quran does it declare Ahmadis as nonmuslims. Your rules are created by humans, none of whom I have to answer to. I answer to Allah - when you find a place in the Quran where it explicitly states to kill Ahmadis and persecute them, please msg me.

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You know, playa,

I have noticed something about your responses. You never quite address the issue or question at hand. I never said the states was following sharia. What I said was that in this country, we have no laws that kill innocent HUMANS.

I believe we are humans first and foremost. The slaying of any human is completely absurd. Try to stick with the question.

I asked, and ask again: If Allah can only truly decide if one is a true Muslim, can you please provide me with where it is written in the Quran that Ahmadis are "non-muslims"?

I havent read that anywhere in the Quran.

There is no law in Pakistan state says to kill innocent humans...!

You're right Allah swt can only decide who's on the rigth path. But do human beings just follow anything? No! They have to follow the deen as brought down by Rasulullah pbuh and carried on generation after generation with an unbroken chain. And that says whoever goes against the fundamental beliefs of Islam is undoubtedly out of fold of Islam. So investigate rather than just blindly following (as you said you have not read most books)

dear mods: I'm trying my best to not talk religion in this forum but members are calling for it

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*There is no law in Pakistan state says to kill innocent humans...!

You're right Allah swt can only decide who's on the rigth path.* But do human beings just follow anything? No! They have to follow the deen as brought down by Rasulullah pbuh and carried on generation after generation with an unbroken chain. And that says whoever goes against the fundamental beliefs of Islam is undoubtedly out of fold of Islam.

First off, thank you for posting this. Well, then I think we should set America, South America and Austrailia (just for starters) ablaze. These nations go against the fundamental beliefs of Islam. Why target a small sect only? The chain is not broken by Ahmadis. It is merely another sect. Just like Shia, Wa'habi and plenty of other sects. Ahmadiyyat is not out of fold of Islam. I can repeat the Kalima again if you like.

dear mods: I'm trying my best to not talk religion in this forum but members are calling for it
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Shall we put this topic to rest? I believe we can go back and forth for years about it. Entirely up to you. I dont want to be declared another Ahmadi "shying away" from discussin this topic.

Pretty simple way of putting it don't you think? Americans are not claiming to be Muslim are they? This is about belief. Anyway to you your faith, to me my faith. (mods don't want religion discussion in this forum).

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no they arent claiming to be muslim but they are going against the fundamental beliefs of islam.

Yes - May both of us find peace in our own views.

more than Pakistan and i can prove it!!

[mod]Guys.. one more post with religious perceptions and mods will start banning people from PA/WA Forums without any further warning...!!![/mod]

Apologies, Mods. I will discontinue speaking any further about Ahmadiyyat.

M

I usually dont agree with what CP has to say,** but i disagree that he should be banned**. It is good to have people with different opinions on this forum, if we all agreed with each other all the time, it wont be as interesting.

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^ It's a matter of showing respect and tolerance towards other faiths. If we don't have respect and tolerance, we add fuel to the exisiting fire created by Mullas against ALL minorities in Pakistan.

p.s. I haven't aksed for a ban on CP. And I wouldn't want that either.

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back to topic!!
watch the first 10min and you’ll know if its “just” a terror attack or secular violence

http://pkpolitics.com/2010/05/30/nai-rahein-30-may-2010/