Re: Laanat, Curse !
King gave the gifts and money, did he receive anything ?
Dua-e-Sanam-e-Quraish.
Is it the Dua that accuses Shaikhain of Tehreef in Quran. Its fake written by someone long after martyrdom of Ali ra.
Re: Laanat, Curse !
Blah blah... Not rebutting the proofs I had provided means admission on your part that companions did abuse/curse each other. That is suffice to bring down the entire structure of the ediotic ideology fabricated by yopur forefathes regarding companions i.e. no one can criticise a companion otherwise he goes out of the pale of Islam.
your stupidity has no bounds
after a more thorough inspection of the text the translation should read "may Allah destroy him"
قاتل الله
**بن الخطاب أن فلانا باع خمرا فقال قاتل الله
*رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال *قاتل الله **اليهود حرمت عليهم الشحوم فجملوها فباعوها
Re: Laanat, Curse !
Is it the Dua that accuses Shaikhain of Tehreef in Quran. Its fake written by someone long after martyrdom of Ali ra.
of course it is fake but theyve authenticated it!
thats shiasm, thats one of their 'supplications'!
Re: Laanat, Curse !
your stupidity has no bounds
after a more thorough inspection of the text the translation should read "may Allah destroy him" قاتل الله **بن الخطاب أن فلانا باع خمرا فقال قاتل الله *رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال *قاتل الله **اليهود حرمت عليهم الشحوم فجملوها فباعوها
What about the Bukhari tradition? (Though he as usual did not reveal the name of the Sahabi being cursed).
And What about the rest of the reprots wherein pagans were cursing/abusing your fourth caliph? All gone unrebutted?
Re: Laanat, Curse !
Thanks Icono for clarifying. I really took that Dua-e-Sanam-e-Quraish (as dua from the love ones of Quraish) i.e. Ameer Muawiya (RA) got dua from Hazrat Hasan & Hussain (RA). :smack: The name suggests that its from Persian origin.
Edit: Here is the link to that dua (Bad dua) from the family of Rehmatul lil aalameen (SAW).
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whoever would recite this prayer will get an extra-ordinary reward from the Lord; similar to assisting Prophet Mohammeds.a.w..during the battles of ‘Ohad and Tabooq’ and would achieve the martyred status in the presence of His prophet asws. And the reward of 100 Hajj and Umara as an associate of Prophet Mohammed asws as well as ‘Sawab’ of 1000 months of fasting.In addition, one will be on the side of Rasool Allah asws and Aimah Masomeen asws on the day of judgement and Allah swt. will forgive all his/her sins, despite the fact if his/her committed sins are equivalent to the stars in the sky, grains of sand in the wilderness and leaves of all trees. Also the reciter will be saved from punishment in the grave and a window from heaven will be installed in his/her grave.
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http://hubeali.com/dua-e-sanam-e-quraish.php
The bold part makes me understand that cursing Shaikhaan is above all good deeds Haj, Jihaad, fasting.
Re: Laanat, Curse !
Is it the Dua that accuses Shaikhain of Tehreef in Quran. Its fake written by someone long after martyrdom of Ali ra.
please explain more...
Re: Laanat, Curse !
^This dua says that sanamai quriash did tehreef in Quran, which obviously in wrong, as Allah has protected Quran from Tehreef.
Re: Laanat, Curse !
Its fake and I can't accept it to be from a person like Hazrat Ali. Its against the basic teachings of Quran. How can just cursing be above all the ibadaat. As Icono said no one could make changes in Quran as Allah Himself promised to protect it.
Re: Laanat, Curse !
Its fake and I can't accept it to be from a person like Hazrat Ali. Its against the basic teachings of Quran. How can just cursing be above all the ibadaat. As Icono said no one could make changes in Quran as Allah Himself promised to protect it.
From My understanding... and shia point of view....wording of Quran isnt changed.... neither can it be. Quran is Protected by ALLAH and no force can make any changes in Quran.
However, we can all have 30 pages thread with arguments about who Ahleybait a.s are ! and the thread wont be protective. There are more ayats like that which bring alot of controversey on table... every one takes the ayat as it suits em. This is whats meant by Tehreef here. We cant even agree on who are Ahleybait a.s ! The Quran (with its tafseer) complied by Imam ALI a.s was rejected and if it was made standard rather than rejected; then all of us would be on same page.
Re: Laanat, Curse !
What about the benefits mentioned for reciting this dua mentioned in psot no. 65?
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Sorry Bahi, I thought i quoted Icono bahi, the Reply was for his post.
Anyway, kia app ko Khuda key Kareem honay per shak hai ? If you think this dua is over rated then open this book i have attached and read benefits for every surah and every dua and you will be able to asnwer those who ask “how can ALLAH be kareem and yet punish his creation in hell” ?
Every dua and every surah is very beneficial.
Re: Laanat, Curse !
I can never doubt Allah being Raheem o Kareem, but I don't believe sayings which state huge rewards and big azaab for small deeds (who over quoted them). For me Islam emphasizes on actions and its this passive school of thoughts that is responsible for major damage to Islam.
When Quran says at many places for example Surah Ankaboot's first ayat that no one gets place in Jannat unless he/she and his actions are examined, then what is the need for such duas. If Islam has to give such importance to these kinds of Duas then what was the need for ayats in Quran related to Jehad, Haj and other duties. It should have taught 'go to a corner, read this and that dua and you will get all rewards hereafter.
Re: Laanat, Curse !
everyone, good effort at making a joke off ourselves... but not funny one.
Re: Laanat, Curse !
I can never doubt Allah being Raheem o Kareem, but I don't believe sayings which state huge rewards and big azaab for small deeds (who over quoted them). For me Islam emphasizes on actions and its this passive school of thoughts that is responsible for major damage to Islam.
When Quran says at many places for example Surah Ankaboot's first ayat that no one gets place in Jannat unless he/she and his actions are examined, then what is the need for such duas. If Islam has to give such importance to these kinds of Duas then what was the need for ayats in Quran related to Jehad, Haj and other duties. It should have taught 'go to a corner, read this and that dua and you will get all rewards hereafter.
Offcourse, There are some conditions for Qabooliat (acceptantce) of ibadaat. Anyway we r going way off the topic. The reference of Dua-e-Sanam-e-Quraish was given t answer one of your questions.
Re: Laanat, Curse !
^ Thanks Bro.
This really enhanced my knowledge on the topic under consideration (especially the intensity and importance of act of cursing).