Check it out
(dont ask how I’m getting these web addresses - God, I’m such a bum)
There are an insane amount of pictures on the website and a decent description of the background.
Here are some pics:
(check the rest out on the net, please - its a pain in the put to post 30+ pics)
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This movie is out already.
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well he's got at least one thing right - he did not cast himself in any kind of role. it's a good start. he has three outstanding actors in there - Talat Hussain, Nayyar Ijaz, and the Ustad from Ilzam.
The movie still looks set to sink. The songs suck. The story will be a very superficially patriotic saga - typical Rauf Khalid. Zara bibi can look pretty but that is about it.
Still if it becomes available in Toronto, I will definitely support it and watch it.
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The movie still looks set to sink. The songs suck. The story will be a very superficially patriotic saga - typical Khalid Rauf.
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actully the story is set in the early 19th century. A hindu girl who's 16 is converting and wants to marry a muslim boy. Under the British law she must wait till she gets 18 but under the Islamic law 16 is the legitimate age for a girl to get married. The story then moves from this point on.
For some reason i can't enter the website but seeing Ta'alat Hussain, i'd think it'd be worth giving a try.
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A hindu girl who's 16 is converting and wants to marry a muslim boy.
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my point exactly.
yes, but where is patriotism in this?
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yes, but where is patriotism in this?
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look I haven't seen the movie. but I have followed the making of the movie for some time now. And I've read this guys interviews and watched some of his dramas. All his work has this very patronizing approach of spelling everything out for his audience. Most of his work has been a variation on the patriotism theme which extends and includes the Muslim vs British/Hindu conflict in the pre-1947 India.
in a nutshell, I resent his unintelligent treatment of these extremely sensitive topics.
yeah but what does this movie has to do with patriotism? The time period is of eighteen hundred something, when the idea of two seprate nation wasn't even idealized yet. Hindu and Muslims were together fighting the brits. And just so you know this movie is about a court case. What is that court case? i have discussed it earlier.
I think it will end up being a very simplistic treatment of a very complex topic. either way it's all in the semantics.
more importantly, welcome to the forum. it seems like you're interested in the Pak entertainment scene and believe you me there aren't too many of you here. So, good to have you here and hopefully we'll have more intelligent threads on Pak entertainment industry.
ok thanx :)
but atleast admit that you were wrong about patriotism being the theme in this particular movie. It won't matter to you but atleast it'd encourage me to discuss more. :)
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ok thanx :)
but atleast admit that you were wrong about patriotism being the theme in this particular movie. It won't matter to you but atleast it'd encourage me to discuss more. :)
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tobah, how ziddi are you? ok fine, I was wrong.
I do intend to revisit this thread after I've seen the movie.
well whts wrong in being patriotic and making movies over sensitive topics? :-)
yeah what's wrong with it. It's just a few cheesy lines to hail one's country for me.
It must be great.
PCG, I could never quite understand your fascination with Pakistani movies. Nothing that Indian movies are any less inexcusable. What gives?
You know how some people have a weird fascination with math…and they major in math in college…and no one can quite explain it…
well, that’s the best comparison i can make - there is no reason at all really… 
No, to be quite honest, I have interest in a lot of different things, and film is one (among other art forms) and it puzzles me how the pakistani film industry, which at one time produced quality stuff, cant produce anything substantial, even though our dramas are :k: and music videos are :k: and music is :k: etc…
I mean, what is holding Pakistan back from doing well in this medium when its totally making progress elsewhere? Useless questions like this interest me.
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I mean, what is holding Pakistan back from doing well in this medium when its totally making progress elsewhere? Useless questions like this interest me.
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you know I some time ask myself the same question. Since the launch of TV network we made excellent dramas. From Waris to Unkahi to Tanhayan to Dhuwan to Paranda to Sawan to Behlawa and now Kahaniyan, Mehndi, Umra o Jaan Ada and god knows how many else briliant piecees of art has graced our entertainment industry and the work keeps changing (mostly in a better way) with time and improving.
POP industry, though took heavy demage at first, started late then died and got back up again only to become a phonome that it is today.
Movies themselves were excellent. Go back to 50's and moving up we got Neend, Anar Kali, Zarqa, Azadi, Kartar Singh, Yeh Aman and Weheed Murad flicks, Mohd Ali and Zeeba' time period, Babra Shreif and Jawed Sheikh and even in recent time Tere Pyaar Mein. On the whole if you look, the resume is quite good.
So what is the problem? quite many as every knows. Lack of talented and serious artists. Got load of artists who think of film industry as a part time job. Are we improving in this section? definatly not. How to improve? educate them and teach them films. Do we have an institute? finally....Yes.
Technology. Big problem that is eating the film industry inside out. Improvements? quite many. Last year's YDAKH and CIL and this year's list expands and hopefully in a two or more year the minumum requirement of a B grade film will 35mm cameras.
Sound is another technical default. New labs are being developed that ensures better (if not best) sound along with picture quality.
Alright now the consumer, the market, the audience. People have debated endlessly that why make the films better if there is no market for it. After all without money and profit how can any industry survive. My take is (like everyone else's) that people have had enough. Though, on weekends and Eid big and huge lines are to be seen outside theaters and only that's when these crap products recover their money, but that doesn't mean people are going inside to watch the film. Some gotta spend a day out, others gotta sit in air conditioned room for three hours with ear plugs and the rest are there for soliciting. But no matter what the reason it does show that even after the overwhelming load of foreign media through cable and stallite dish and the immense piracy of dvds and vcds, poeple are still willing to come to cenima houses and nothing IMO can change that. Now what if there was a qulity product available? what would be the response to that? to answer that YDAKH (though better only quality wise) has been on successful run for almost a year now and still running on a few cinema houses in Lahore, Rawalpindi, Karachi and other big cities.
It all boils down to the qulity of product and how to make reach to masses.