What is the significance of having Koonday? Why its celebrated in South Asian, specially Madras/Hyderabadi Khattay people do it religiously. What I heard about it that it was celebrated by [edited]on the death of a great Sahabi. Then it was later associated with Hazrat Jafar Sadiq’s faatiha as a cover up.
Anyone has any authentic information on Koonday?
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Anyone has any authentic information on Koonday?
please throw some more light on what is the meaning of KOONDAY?
who is that "death of a great Sahabi. ".. share his name also?
what is wrong in Hazrat Jafar Sadiq's faatiha? you can give any day if you are not wahabi.
wassalam
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khoondeh ki niaz is usually held on from 22 Rajab and after, where people get together for some halwa/puri/channe, naan,etc. It is niaz in the name of Imam Jaffer and many people who hold mannats/vow to God, that if a certain problem is resolved, they will hold khoondey ki niaz. Others hold it anyway as part of tradition.
People get together and read Quran, do aamaals, qaseedeh/naats khwaani etc. baisically its a religious gathering. Im not sure why its 22 rajab or what Muawiyah's got to do with it, because from all the khoondeh niaz ive attended in my life incl. this past month, he seems pretty irrelevent...he just doesnt come into the picture...
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Is this another Shia thing?
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Do you know in how many sects jews divided? in how many sects christians divided? to how many god Hindues pray? Perhaps you do not know except one thing that they are jews or christians or hindue. They are united that is why world know them by one name. But in muslims..73 sects and among them ignorants target eachother...... may Allah show them right path and give taufeeq to understand Quran and follow the Quran.
wasslam
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^ right and the wars in the days of the reformation were just based on some people acting weird. It was much bigger than sunni shia.
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I may be wrong but I did not read anythig about koonday in either quran or hadeeth.
where did this thing pop out of?
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A sad thing about koonday is that they (shia's) dont share niaz food with us sunnis. Inspite of having blood relations we were given seperate food (halwa poori) at an uncle's house, and when asked, the matter was sidelined quickly.
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Depends, where I used to live, they (our shia neighbours, some of us whom we never even met) used to send us (and all other neighbours) stuff regularly....
Plus, I dont find anything 'sad' about it, un ki marzi...
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The main question which i asked why muslims always think like he is shia, he is sunni and developed so many ill feelings for each other. Ofcource such muslims are very less in number but these people are responcible for weakening muslims. so many i asked …
Do you know in how many sects jews divided? in how many sects christians divided? to how many god Hindues pray? Perhaps you do not know except one thing that they are jews or christians or hindue. They are united that is why world know them by one name. But in muslims..73 sects and among them ignorants target eachother… may Allah show them right path and give taufeeq to understand Quran and follow the Quran.
But no repy from those who think their duty is only to divide muslims , insulting other brother and creating dispute.
I can not understand which Quran the follow.?
wassalam
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Koondey is the time to have some yummy food.
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1-Koondays are bidaat even from shia perspective.
2-There is no authentic proof of any association of this ritual/bidat with Hadrat Jaffer.Only relevence is that Hadrat Muawiyah:razi: death was on this date .
3-I am not sure if rest of shia world also celeberate this day.
4-Word koonday has negative meaning.
For e.g
**A-**Main tera koonda nikal daun ga
**B-**ALLAH karay saray shiaoon ka koonday nikal jae
MaMooli-
Please remove this irrelevant post-
Disgracing any of the sahbah:razi: by any shia should not be allowed, i am saying this because we sunnis do not abuse any sahabi:razi:
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1 - As you know shias are proud biddatees, hence thats not a very strong argument where they're concerned. :-p
2- whatever the background, it is a religious and social gathering, something that is encouraged in Islam. Not a must, but highly encouraged.
3- Im not aware if others have similar traditions, but whether they do or not, is pretty much irrelevant.
4- koondeh means an earthen pot (made out of clay) that niaz is tradionally put in, hence 'khoondeh ki niaz'. :-)
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2- whatever the background, it is a religious and social gathering, something that is encouraged in Islam. Not a must, but highly encouraged.
3- Im not aware if others have similar traditions, but whether they do or not, is pretty much irrelevant.
4- koondeh means an earthen pot (made out of clay) that niaz is tradionally put in, hence 'khoondeh ki niaz'. :-)
INnalilah e wainna aliha rajioyon
What a twisted logic.
How come Koondays are religious gathering. ?
PLease remove offence post from oscar.
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you would presume its a religious gathering because you do religious stuff, you dont get together and to talk about football or whats on TV or something… :halo:
this is what i said earlier;
its simply the type of gathering that is encouraged in Islam.
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actually isnt just having guests over and distributing food in the neighbourhood sawaab by itself, even if the talk is football?
i hadnt associated koondey with muawiya. and while a lot of people do it 22nd rajab, the whole month of rajab has similar niaz amongst shias who dont want their koondeys to clash with other koondeys. Ours is usually on the 27th or something. So its not about rubbing it into sunnies on that specific date. and koondey means clay pot bao, it would be an odd choice for an offensive word.
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It may not if it relates to celebrating the death of some one respected by wide majority of muslims.
EDIT:
You have changed edited your post . so this post no more relevent. :)
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hmmm that is debatable. if hes not respected by someone, it really wouldnt bother them whether it was his birthday or the day he died..... But if you guys want to impose it as that way, then im sure they wouldnt have any qualms with that either. However, from my experience, bar the Ahlul bayt's wiladat and shahadats, we really have no concern over anyone else's.
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People get together and read Quran, do aamaals, qaseedeh/naats khwaani etc. baisically its a religious gathering. Im not sure why its 22 rajab or what Muawiyah's got to do with it, because from all the khoondeh niaz ive attended in my life incl. this past month, he seems pretty irrelevent...he just doesnt come into the picture...
22rajab koonday is also a symbol or islamic unity because all the sunnis and shia both celebrate in the same way explained by you.
wassalam
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vain talk 
but i agree, inviting guests and distributing food to neighbours is a rewarding act initself.