Re: Know your Mahajir:
Utna hi jitna British and American English mein difference hai!
Re: Know your Mahajir:
Man, forgot about this thread...
Anyways, I forgot to add that Delhiwalas alongwith adding 'iyo' as a suffix to words also add 'iya'...
*
Arya hai na jarya hai batain bana riya hai...*
**
Rajasthanis:**
Raj = Ruler, king or government, Asthaan = Next to, neighbour so meaning the neighbour of the king or government...However, Asthaana would literally be translated as sleeve...So the literla translation of this word would be, the government's sleeve...
My father's side is from Rajasthan, Ajmer Sharif to be exact...My mother's side however is from a city called Jaora in MP...Just a little background for those who wanted to know what part I myself was from...
As usual, the Rajasthanis can be divided into three parts...The ruling class, the warrior class and the farmer class...And all three have absolutely different traits...And all three are deeply cultural in nature however their values may differ...
The ruling class and warrior class of Rajsathan had more nawabs and princes than any state in India and they all came from one clan: The Rajputs. ...No wars were ever fought amongst them, or even if their was, I have never heard of it...
The Rajputs were highly devoted, exceptionally courageous fighters and were most coveted in the Mughal courts where they garnered great respect and renown for their military prowess...Most of the Generals in the Mughal armies, despite being Hindus, were from the Rajputs...Raj meaning king and Put (Poot) stemming from the word Saput (Sapoot) meaning offsrping...So the literal translation of the word means, king's offsprings...
The Urdu of the ruling class emulated the Urdu of the Mughal courts, as a result, the Urdu of the Ruling class was very fluid and clear without any hint of local or even native dialect...The warrior class however had a little bit of both...
The farmer class of the Rajasthanis are deeply ingrained with culture as well...Unassuming, soft in nature the farmer class exudes all that is Rajasthan in Indian Bollywood films...From the colourful dresses of the women with bangles upto their elbows and men with menacingly long moustaches wearing white frock like dresses...
Their Urdu is a heavy mixture of Purvi and a dialect not spoken anywhere in India...The one word which I remember right now is 'Haivrha' which means heart...LOL...Bet you never heard that before...
Bollywood fans will remember this from a song 'Maaray haivrhay main'...Meaning, in my heart...
Good at heart and generally non-threatening, the Rajasthanis can often at times display absolutely loutish behaviour when their pride is hurt...
One of my favourite Urdu writers, Mushtaq Ahmed Yusufi is also a Rajasthani...
Bhopalis:
They are the storytellers of the Mahajir world...
Copycats of the Delhiwalas minus the subtelety of language...Well cultured,, poetic, ruthlessly argumentative, these guys would fall somewhere between Hyderabad and Lucknow...
Their Urdu is twisted as the Hyderabadis yet having the cultural knowhow of the Lucknawis and Delhiwalas...
Bhopalis are very easy going by nature, but cannot stand being corrected or opposed in view...They will argue every point...
Bhopalis make great entertainers, comedians and are very good company on long road trips...
Their Urdu is laid flat with a suffix of 'aan'...
like raat is raataan, baat is baataan, Main (me) is men, and some suffixes are similar to Delhiwalas...Like Arya, jaariya. kehriya...
Re: Know your Mahajir:
Very informative. :k:
I think it’d be great if someone could attach an Indian map and point out all the places whose people have been discussed thus far.
Btw… not all Dehliwalas are all that bad. 
Re: Know your Mahajir:
How could Lajawab mention Hyderabadies without mentioning biryani? 
Re: Know your Mahajir:
What? no insight into "Urdu the Taang torr Panjabis" yes there are Punjabi Mahajirs too you know?
By the way very informative, and one question isn't Gen Musharraf Bihari?
Re: Know your Mahajir:
^ Migrants from East to west Punjab are not considered Mahajirs. is Yes, Musharraf is a Bihari but talks Urdu with a Punjabi accent. FYI, many of the Pakistani rulers were Bihari- Liaqat Ali Khan, Shaukat Aziz etc.
Re: Know your Mahajir:
By the way very informative, and one question isn't Gen Musharraf Bihari?
Musharraf is from Delhi. He visited his au-pair/nanny there when he visited India.
Re: Know your Mahajir:
Liaqat Ali Khan was not a Bihari…His family is from Haryana…
Re: Know your Mahajir:
Mads, I had no idea Biryani is actually a Hyderabadi dish…I have always known it to be a UP dish…
But then, there must be almost 50 varieties of Biryanis…Who knows?
But I will not argue, that it was Hyderabad which played a major role in elevating south asian culinary art to a whole new level…I am a big fan of Hyderabadi cuisine…
Re: Know your Mahajir:
But then, there must be almost 50 varieties of Biryanis...Who knows?
But I will not argue, that it was Hyderabad which played a major role in elevating south asian culinary art to a whole new level...I am a big fan of Hyderabadi cuisine...
Biryani is a Bihari dish. Hyderabad is famous for it's biryani, however, the original dish is from the region of Bihar.
Re: Know your Mahajir:
There were a few Urdu-speaking enclaves in United Punjab and many of the inhabitants did migrate to Pakistan.
I would like to know why Urdu-speaking people continue to refer to themselves as Muhajirs? I am sure most of you have not personally migrated to Pakistan and that some of you are third or fourth generation Pakistanis. I think it would be more appropriate if you people refered to yourselves as Daccanis, Biharis, Bhoplis, etc. This way you guys can preserve your ethnicity but also maintain that you people are not immigrants. Even the term "Urdu-speaking" is better than Muhajir.
Re: Know your Mahajir:
In Hyderabadi Urdu What does "Hallo Hallo" mean?
Re: Know your Mahajir:
muhajir kya cheez hai??
excuse me for my ignorance!
Re: Know your Mahajir:
It’s Hallu Hallu, meaning slow slow…Or Halkay Halkay in proper Urdu…
Mahajirs are Muslims who migrated from India to Pakistan…
Re: Know your Mahajir:
Musharraf is a delhiwala- Biharioyon ko gali na dau 
Liaqat ali khan was bhopali?
Shaukat aziz wife is bihari , he is not.
Re: Know your Mahajir:
Thats ok then! All my relatives were pakistanis even before pakistan was made! But i have heard a few tales of Mahajirs who lost families and all posessions during the partition, May Allah be pleased with them.
Re: Know your Mahajir:
Anyways, I forgot to add that Delhiwalas alongwith adding 'iyo' as a suffix to words also add 'iya'...
Arya hai na jarya hai batain bana riya hai...
Rajasthanis:
Raj = Ruler, king or government, Asthaan = Next to, neighbour so meaning the neighbour of the king or government...However, Asthaana would literally be translated as sleeve...So the literla translation of this word would be, the government's sleeve...
My father's side is from Rajasthan, Ajmer Sharif to be exact...My mother's side however is from a city called Jaora in MP...Just a little background for those who wanted to know what part I myself was from...
As usual, the Rajasthanis can be divided into three parts...The ruling class, the warrior class and the farmer class...And all three have absolutely different traits...And all three are deeply cultural in nature however their values may differ...
The ruling class and warrior class of Rajsathan had more nawabs and princes than any state in India and they all came from one clan: The Rajputs. ...No wars were ever fought amongst them, or even if their was, I have never heard of it...
The Rajputs were highly devoted, exceptionally courageous fighters and were most coveted in the Mughal courts where they garnered great respect and renown for their military prowess...Most of the Generals in the Mughal armies, despite being Hindus, were from the Rajputs...Raj meaning king and Put (Poot) stemming from the word Saput (Sapoot) meaning offsrping...So the literal translation of the word means, king's offsprings...
The Urdu of the ruling class emulated the Urdu of the Mughal courts, as a result, the Urdu of the Ruling class was very fluid and clear without any hint of local or even native dialect...The warrior class however had a little bit of both...
The farmer class of the Rajasthanis are deeply ingrained with culture as well...Unassuming, soft in nature the farmer class exudes all that is Rajasthan in Indian Bollywood films...From the colourful dresses of the women with bangles upto their elbows and men with menacingly long moustaches wearing white frock like dresses...
Their Urdu is a heavy mixture of Purvi and a dialect not spoken anywhere in India...The one word which I remember right now is 'Haivrha' which means heart...LOL...Bet you never heard that before...
Bollywood fans will remember this from a song 'Maaray haivrhay main'...Meaning, in my heart...
Good at heart and generally non-threatening, the Rajasthanis can often at times display absolutely loutish behaviour when their pride is hurt...
One of my favourite Urdu writers, Mushtaq Ahmed Yusufi is also a Rajasthani...
Bhopalis:
They are the storytellers of the Mahajir world...
Copycats of the Delhiwalas minus the subtelety of language...Well cultured,, poetic, ruthlessly argumentative, these guys would fall somewhere between Hyderabad and Lucknow...
Their Urdu is twisted as the Hyderabadis yet having the cultural knowhow of the Lucknawis and Delhiwalas...
Bhopalis are very easy going by nature, but cannot stand being corrected or opposed in view...They will argue every point...
Bhopalis make great entertainers, comedians and are very good company on long road trips...
Their Urdu is laid flat with a suffix of 'aan'...
like raat is raataan, baat is baataan, Main (me) is men, and some suffixes are similar to Delhiwalas...Like Arya, jaariya. kehriya...
Mamu...bhopalis are the best. e.g. surma bhopali in sholay.
Re: Know your Mahajir:
Liaqat ali khan was bhopali?
Shaukat aziz wife is bihari , he is not.
Musharraf was born in Delhi but his family moved from Bihar to Delhi with majjan. Where is Shaukat aziz from?
Re: Know your Mahajir:
Nahiii-
Kaisee karwii haqiqat hay :(
Re: Know your Mahajir:
Kaisee karwii haqiqat hay :(
Most of the people from India's Hindi belt (UP, Haryana, Rajasthan and Bihar) are short and dark like Musharraf..