KKF's Signature Challenge

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Re: KKF’s Signature Challenge

@blessed2006

Ok jinhon ne khalil khan fakhta aka KKF ke signature ko akhaan khol ke dekha hai un ko pata hoga ke KKF ne us main ek challenge diya hai…signature aur challenge kuch youn hai
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tujh se, qismat meN mirii, soorat-e-qufl-e-abjad
thaa likhaa, baat ke bante hii, judaa ho jaanaa!
CHALLENGE: Can anyone correctly EXPLAIN this she’r by Ghalib?

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Chalo saare zehen larao aur is sher ko sahi tarah se bayaan karo.

nahi ata te koi gal nahi per try zaroor marni hai…line nahi try marni hai. ok

(aur mods loag is thread ko idhar cafe main rehne dena plz kyon ke culture-liguistic section main koi shakal nahi dikhata shukriya)

thank you Blessed for posting this challenge here and activating the sleepy brains of our fellow Gappis and Gappans haN jii…Happy MaGhaz-maaring

@Mirch

I can try :
qufl-a-abjad is a combination lock. So once the right combination is entered the lock clicks and it gets separated from door.
Same thing happened to Ghalib , as soon as he and his beloved ( mashooq) clicked they got separated from each other.
Separation here does not carry the right connotation. Juda-e is more than mere separation here.

P.S: Even if I am on the right track , do not announce it yet , let others try too.

**thanks for an explanation of the she’r.

the number lock doesn NOT “SEPARATE” as is misunderstood by the masses…when the right numbers are entered, the lock OPENS UP but does NOT separate as the she’r suggests that it does separate. the way the lock opens with the right numbers is a good thing [qismat kaa KHUL jaanaa]. so, the linkage with ‘judaai’ and ‘number-lock’ is NOT made unfortunately :(**

@kickboxer

Is ka matlab hai ke baat bante bante bigar gai.. Qufl -e-Abjad is a lock (taala) jo correct words ya numbers to sahi se arrange karo to khulta hai.
ye Mirza Ghalib ka shair hai ke Mehboob ke saath judai ko Qufl-e-Abjad kaha ke baat bante bante bigar gai..

Mirch saaHib kii post par upar meraa jawaab paRh leN plz.

@Sehrysh

tujh se, qismat meN mirii, soorat-e-qufl-e-abjad
thaa likhaa, baat ke bante hii, judaa ho jaanaa!

My attempt at translating the shair…

The simple Urdu meaning/translation of the shair is:

Us ka hamesha say qismat mein miltay hi, jud’aa hona likha tha

But the more complicated, imagery included meaning (in English) is:

You were fated in my life, but like with the certainty of a lock that opens with the right combination when entered, once you entered my life

It was written, as soon as we would be together, fate intended us to be parted.

Aur sahi jevaab daynay pay, inaam kya millayga?

taalaa khul jaaye to qismat kaa khulna samajh meN aataa hai magar judaa ho jaanaa samajh se door hai…shaa’ir kaa zor judaaii par hai…taalaa khulte hii judaa ho jaane ke maa-bai’n koi raabita ba-zaahir nazar nahiiN aataa…maiN jald hii tashreeH o tauzeeH o taus’ee kar duuNgaa tab aapko iA link nazar aayegaa

@queer

well this is unfair since i have two phds in urdu and farsi and a post doc in dari poetry.

ghalib says here that you and me were coo until you picked my lock sista, now you go to jail.

lol…hehe…ur on-line PhD’s are NOT refreshed plz refresh those pages!