Kite Runner--Pushtoon attrocities against Hazaras

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Why are some pashtuns so thickheaded?

India supported the Soviet position (as it would being an ally) in the eighties occupation of Afghanistan!

That is it.. No More, No LESS!

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we know they did, however, in my opinion, they all(pakistan india, IRI, etc) had there hands dirty in Afghanistan.

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What diplomatic action???? They are Russian allies for LONG time now, in fact they took DIPLOMATIC action to become friends of Afghans once the war was over. Where were those friends during the war??? Who went to fight along Afghans against Russians?????

Do you think Indias will give a toss about Afghans if there were no anti-pak elements in Afghanistan?????

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Pakistani government may have played a dirty role in Afghanistan(those stupid politicians did the same within pakistan itself) but that was no worse than Afghani warloads.
I hate the way these Afghani Ehsaan Faramoshs(sorry if i am offending anyone) behave, our government may not have done good things to their country (PURELY FOR POLITICAL REASONS) but an average Pakistani has done enough for them.
We helped them during war against Russians, accepted MILLIONS of refugees and suffered so much bcause of Afghani drugs and weapons.

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If I got a buck for everyone who said that. damnnnnnn lol

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^ Got a buck for what? :konfused:

No muftis allowed! :mad:

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There is this shair (verse):
"Afghan, combo, kashmiri zaat-e-badzaad".

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^^I was talkign about what mysterious said.What did you mean by mufits?

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Not just talk the talk baby. Walk the walk as well.

Do something about persecution of Hazaras at the hands of Afghan-Pushtoons instead of "buck"ing up and down.

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Are you talking to me? Anyways, Hazaras have been badly treated, but every ethnic group had their hands dirty, so don't sideline us. Lets not forget Dostum, Massoud, etc.

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But pashtun discrimination of hazaras started early? with King Amanullah khan in the late nineteenth century uprooting hazaras in war and giving their land to pashtun (so hazaras couldn't come back) hence you see them so much in quetta (where hazaras came fleeing to british india after their persecution in afghanistan).

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I dont see what kite flying has to do with the mullahs. This year 500 people were injured flying kites in the past week alone. A man was driving his motorcycle and a kite laced with glass slit the the throat of his child who was also sitting on the cycle at the time. The child later died in hospital due to blood loss. But if freedom from ISI and Pakistan to fly your kites, have a ball.

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^ Now what did ISI had to do with kite flying? :mudhosh: :omg:

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I personally know quite a few Hazara refugees here in Canada.
When I first met them they thought I was a pashtun and would'nt speak with me.
Some of the stories they tell me are horrific, but I'm sure there are two sides to the story and they must have provoked the Afghan pashtuns in some way.

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Are you justifying the Pashtun slaughter of thousands of the Hazara’s?

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All these kabuli Ka-bul-bulies would either ignore or justify the slaughter and historical discrimination against Hazaras, either because these humble and innocent folks are Shias, or (the way Kite-runner book puts it) they have slanted eyes.

In this wild and $tupid propaganda, they also ignore that Afghan-Pushtoons have their hands dripping in Hazara, Tajik, and Uzbek blood.

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Like when 3 millions Bangalis-brothers in Islam-were slaughtered in just 11 months and o.4 millions- sisters in Islam- raped. That was the worst genocude of humans since 1500 AD as for average number of people killed per day is concerned!

Why don't you read Rape of Bangla Desh or The Massacre by Robert Pyne to know the truth for yourself to tone down this Ranjit Singhi propaganda.

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The old 3 million lie?

http://www.dawn.com/2005/07/07/nat3.htm

The historian branch of the State Department held a two-day conference on June 28 and 29 on US policy in South Asia between 1961 and 1972, inviting scholars from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh to express their views on the declassified documents.

During the seminar, Bangladeshi scholars acknowledged that their official figure of more than 3 million killed during and after the military action was not authentic.

They said that the original figure was close to 300,000, which was wrongly translated from Bengali into English as three million.

Shamsher M. Chowdhury, the Bangladesh ambassador in Washington who was commissioned in the Pakistan Army in 1969 but had joined his country’s war of liberation in 1971, acknowledged that Bangladesh alone cannot correct this mistake. Instead, he suggested that Pakistan and Bangladesh form a joint commission to investigate the 1971 disaster and prepare a report.

Almost all scholars agreed that the real figure was somewhere between 26,000, as reported by the Hamoodur Rahman Commission, and not three million, the official figure put forward by Bangladesh and India.

Prof Sarmila Bose, an Indian academic, told the seminar that allegations of Pakistani army personnel raping Bengali women were grossly exaggerated.

Based on her extensive interviews with eyewitnesses, the study also determines the pattern of conflict as three-layered: West Pakistan versus East Pakistan, East Pakistanis (pro-Independence) versus East Pakistanis (pro-Union) and the fateful war between India and Pakistan.

Prof Bose noted that no neutral study of the conflict has been done and reports that are passed on as part of history are narratives that strengthen one point of view by rubbishing the other. The Bangladeshi narratives, for instance, focus on the rape issue and use that not only to demonize the Pakistan army but also exploit it as a symbol of why it was important to break away from (West) Pakistan.

Prof Bose, a Bengali herself and belonging to the family of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, emphasized the need for conducting independent studies of the 1971 conflict to bring out the facts.

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Have a look at this!

http://www.gendercide.org/case_bangladesh.html

This is an independent work on genocide. Pakistani media is not free-norms of impartial journalism are very weak and state control of media is almost absolute.

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Also this!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladeshi_Liberation_War

However, this diesn’t mean Pashtun excesses are justified. Pashtun should comcentrate on their development than dominating others.