Re: Kismat / Entrapment
If it's our fault...it is. If it isn't...clearly we won't be punished...
If it's our fault...it is. Totally agree.
If it's isn't... any ammends for unjustice. Oh no wait it cannot be that way.
Re: Kismat / Entrapment
WE are rewarded for what we do.. we sit down and do nothing.. nothing will happen.. we study and work hard we succeed.....what we achive through our own actions is.. rewarded accordingly... and this is called Qadr..and this is what Allah taugt us in the Quran... Mullahs think otherwise... Quran is the best guidance..
Re: Kismat / Entrapment
TAQDEER
The Arabic word ‘QANOON (قانون) (3) has not been used in the Quran *in the meaning of LAW. It seldom appears even in contemporary Arabic literature. Instead, the *Quran has employed a root more comprehensive than QANOON. It is Q-D-R with the basic meaning of a measure. (قدرت الشيء) means: I measured that thing; estimated. (قدرت الشيء بالشيء) means: I measured the (one) thing against the (other) thing. (قدرت عليه الثوب) means: I made clothes for him according to measurements. Therefore, ‘taqdeer’ has the sense of something being fit to measurements. (مقدار) is a model standard or measure. (على قدر) means: He/It proved true to measure (expected standard). (قدار) is a person of reasonable average of height. (المقدر) is a person who forecasts the yield possible from a particular corn field. **
*It follows, therefore, that (قدر) *‘Qadrun’ or (تقدير) ‘Taqdeer’ means a measure or a standard; also, of something to be of the right measurements, standard and estimate. **
**Since absolute control is required to make something according to a particular standard, (قدرت على شيء) means: I had control (and power) to make that thing according to my standard/measure
Re: Kismat / Entrapment
*Allahs amr Bound to Laws
*‘Amr’**** functions under the absolute power and will of Allah. There are no binding laws. In the ‘Domain of ‘Khalq’, however, Allah’s will is bound by laws (33/38: Allah’s ‘amr’ was bound by standards & measures) and thus ‘Allah set a standard to everything’ (65/3)
***This needs illustration. Liquid water is transformed to solid at freezing point and reverses at a particular temperature. It flows downhill and adapts its form to the container it is in. High temperature evaporates water into vapor which, being lighter than air, rise up as clouds. At a set temperature, clouds liquefy back into water, which, being heavier than air, falls down as rain. These facts are the ‘measures / standards of water’. Another example of the ‘standards of water’ is that in the right quantity, it is a thirst-quenching and life-giving commodity whereas in larger quantities it can even kill (e.g., drowning). A date tree yields fruit in years but banana takes only a few months. A cactus seed breeds a thorny, fruitless plant whereas a mango seed yields an exotic fruit*.
Re: Kismat / Entrapment
[RIGHT]Laws of Nature
It is not difficult to see, then, that (قدر) ‘Qadr’ of the *[/RIGHT]
*Quran is nothing but the Laws of Nature. Therefore, 65/3 means: Allah has set standards / measures to everything in the universe. These laws govern the creation, growth and death (or transformation) of all things. Consider the following from the Quran: **
**1. Regarding the birth of a human child, it says that it starts with the semen being deposited in a safe place (the female ovum) and in (77/21, 22) it stays there for a known measure. Obviously, this refers to the period a fetus stays in the mother’s womb. (according to Nature’s law). The Quran goes on to say in 77/23 “ these measures have been set by Us and We are the best of standard setters”. Incidentally, this verse illustrates the meaning of (قادر ) i.e., the one who sets standards. A variation of this word (قادر) has been used as (قدير) in (25/54).
** About the fetus it says elsewhere (13/8) that occasionally a fetus cannot achieve its full and complete growth and that Gad has set standards to all things. **
2. About rain the Quran says (in 43/11, 23/18): “and We bring down rain from clouds according to a measure”. Elsewhere (13/17), it says: “after rains, streams flow according to their standards.” **
*3. Produce from the Earth is mentioned in (42/27): “Its produce is according to a measure set by *Allah’s will. (ما يشاء is explained a little further on in this book). The four seasons for harvesting & farming are mentioned in (41/10): “Allah has set standards for four harvests (of the Earth).” **
*4. Summing up, it says about all universe in (25/2) “He created all things and set a measure to them.”. More precisely in (54/49): “Surely, We created everything according to a measure.” Special attention should be paid to two verses from *Sura ‘Al-Aala’: “Allah initiated all creation, then gave everything a suitable proportion, set standards to them and programmed them for growth according to those measures.” **
*5. Let us now look at references where (قدر) is even more clearly used in today’s sense of ‘Laws of Nature’. Even a school child knows about the Earth’s rotation causing day and night according to set laws. This enables us to forecast, with certain precision, sunrise and sunset. The *Quran says in (73/20): “Allah has set standards to day & night.” Also, about the moon (10/5): “Allah has set stages for it.” **
** The meaning of (تقدير) may be very clear by the following: “The sun is traveling towards its station. This is the measure set by the all-knowing and almighty (Allah).” Elsewhere (41/12), it talks about the heavenly bodies in general, and about stars in particular, and then says, “These are the standards set by the all-powerful and all-knowing (Allah)”. **
** This illustrates then, that (تقدير) means Laws of Nature and NOT Man’s destiny. **
*One may ponder here on the point that the above mentioned verses say ‘*Allah’s taqdeer’ (standards set by Allah). Therefore, it will be factually erroneous to say ‘Man’s taqdeer’ because Man has not (and cannot) set standards to the universe. **
*The truth of the matter is that so many of our problems arise because of our misuse of words and their meanings. The only way to comprehending the *Quran is to ascertain the correct meanings of its vocabulary, terminology and concepts. **
*These *taqadeer (standards, measures - law of Nature) of Allah’s are pre-determined (it was done in the domain of ‘Amr’) and they are ‘written’ in the ‘book of Nature / Universe’. This is referred to as ‘the clearly set book’. It says in Sura An’aam: “Allah knows what is in the seas and on land. He knows every leaf that falls off a tree. He also knows even a grain in the darkness of the Earth. The truth is that each and every thing (in detail) is there in the clearly-set book.” (6/59) That is to say that standards have been set to all things in the universe and are there. (17/58) ((for anyone to read if they so wish)). This is physics (science). That is why these laws are called (بقدر معلوم) in (15/21) and (15/24) i.e., laws which can be discovered. Adam (mankind) is said to have been given ‘the knowledge of names’. This is nothing but the knowledge of the universe
Re: Kismat / Entrapment
laws of nature are permanent
laws is defined as if then always
A ‘law’ is different from an ‘order’: ‘Law’ is based upon its consistency (if you do this, that will ALWAYS happen). ‘Order’ is a decision. A master issues a variety of orders to his servants. One order may differ in kind from the previous one. Therefore, ‘orders’ are decisions which are subject to change. But when an order (decision) becomes consistent (with no possibility of change), it becomes law (unchangeable decision). Allah’s decisions about the universe (standards and measures) are unchangeable. The permanence of laws of Nature provides the foundation for the sciences. This ever-reliable foundation of permanent laws enables (‘tawakkal’ in the Quranic terminology) the earthlings to take successful trips to the Moon. In fact, the entire structure of our wonderful universe stands on the permanence, consistency and reliability of the laws of Nature.
Re: Kismat / Entrapment
If it's isn't... any ammends for unjustice. Oh no wait it cannot be that way.
We're talking about perpetrating...not being a victim of...and if you're not at fault...what are you making amends for?
Re: Kismat / Entrapment
If laws are fixed - nothing is changed, how does DUAA help then?
Moses (A.H) could do Miracles in his time? How come we don't have miracles?
Re: Kismat / Entrapment
Correct. Miracles mentioned in the Quran are allegories…
Just imagine. Moses asking his Rab to show himself… God says, if I show you Myself (if you see Me) this mountain will crumble to dust. What do we know of this earth and these lofty mountains. They are in fact nothing but made of (cosmic) dust/particals and as soon as Moses realized this, his senses and his intellect were overwhelmed since he could now “see” the Power and Glory of the Almight and what God’s Capabilities are, and that God is beyond human perception/understanding (Lateef)…
Not some hocus pocus