Do you think that only way to feel superior, smug and arrogant is to kill people for oil?
http://www.killforoil.com/sheikhsaabsee
Lets discuss
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Your link doesn't work and secondly, killing for god apparently makes people much much superior.
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Nah, it makes them superior if they can kill for oil, destroy economies because it conflicts with one of the richest businessman in the land and killing to stop communism is highly justifiable according to all doctrines...including christianity. Right?
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Fighting dogma is heavenly, be it christian, communist or islamic. Oil is so 1980's.
You should try fixing the link, otherwise people will think you are just feeling sad because your texas SUV is out of gas.
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I really doubt the Iraq war was for oil. Unless gas prices start going down suddenly to 1.75 a gallon.
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PD, how come you never called me when you were here in Texas.
P.S. My SUV never runs out of gas. I live in the presidental state. 
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Who is killing for oil and what does that have to do with religion?
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Kaleem,
First of all, Iam not sure whether this question should be posted on the religious threads. World & Politics should have been the proper place. Just an opinion.
Killing for any reason is wrong. Question of superiority, smugness and arrogance are irrelevant.
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Kaleem yaar, I was in and out. My deal is still at sharholder approval stage. Once we get the go ahead from the SH, I will be down there more often.
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If we were talking about killing for adultery, homosexuality or to propagate your faith it belongs here, and that does have something to do with superiority, smugness and arrogance. But oil?
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If the rational behind such acts is religion, then yes we should. In this case, its quite clear religion has nothing to do with Uncle Sam making a dash for Iraqi oilfields. Its a classic case of power accumulation and monopolization, period.
Feelings of superiority, smugness and arrogance are relative, judgemental and irrelevant in the doggy style world of international relations/politics.
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Feelings of superiority, smugness and arrogance are relevant to many of the posts here, so if they are irrelevant than so is this discussion board.
As far as power accumulation and monopolization, I think the new representative Iraqi government negates that argument.
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Kaleem dont you want this in WA? Unless of course you're asking whether its "right" to kill - be it for oil....that definately puts it in a new spot light.
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MQ, I am just tired of people making jokes about Islam and opening threads that portray Islam in a negative light. One way to combat is to show these folks that the ideology they are so proud to represent is not without faults. Therefore I put the thread in Religion Forum. Mods can move it if they want.
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Well Kaleem thats pretty tough isnt it? The jokes , the mocking I think its the norm around here.
As far as you trying to educate…some people will not accept the truth. Its not that they dont know, but rather that they do not wish to know.
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First one would have to accept the argument that the Iraq war was for oil.
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YOU supported Bush, so if this war was for oil, make up your mind. You’re either with him or not. The Iraq war is the defining accomplishment of his tenure.
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What ‘ideology’ that you are trying to put in a negative light does the Iraq war represent? It would be like someone criticizing the foreign policy of Pakistan because they are tired of people portraying Christianity in a negative light. How are sprituality and foreign policy related?
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well bush actually held hands with the saudi prince for oil
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well the saudi prince actually held hands with bush for ...?
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Iam not sure what you mean by this statement: As far as power accumulation and monopolization, I think the new representative Iraqi government negates that argument
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Seminole, In Islam spirituality and governance and foreign policy are directly related. You know that...I have heard that here many times. The chip kaleem feels on his shoulder IS because of this phenomenon. If spirituality was just spirituality then one can chalk it up to singular or individual affinity. But when you are trying to explain away models of interaction with the wrold outside of islam per islam..then sorry it is fair game.
I will give you one example, because I deal in show and tell..take any of the arab/pakistani/muslim jihadi outfits, ever wonder why they attach god's name or their prophets name to their monikers if their's is a political struggle? It is groups like HezBollah, Jaish e Muhammed etc etc..that invoke religious sentiments as part of their M.o.. If muslims don;t have a problem with allah or mohammed being affiliated with suicide bombings and such then they certainly shouldn't have a problem with non-muslims equating a religion with terrorism.
Oh an christian right militias, also malign their religion, shiv sena also maligns hinduism. Just to pre-empt your second grade parallels that are going to come.
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Did I say that christians were responsible for Iraq war? I am talking about the ideology very dear to most called "democracy". I am talking about forcing countries at gun point to change their governments. This is not only for Iraq. Venezula is right in our backyard...same stuff is taking place there without a full blown military presence. Afghans are not any better off after a wholesale bombing of that country.
I voted for Bush...not becuase of his stance on Iraq or Afghanistan. I voted for him for reasons that are domestic in nature. Healthcare, Social Security (thanks to liberals we are not having any progress on this issue), moral values etc.