kids raping kids

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PCG - I believe it to be the opposite. The tendency resides in a rapist therefore he would watch porn along those lines. The porn doesn't create the problem, the problem was there all along. If you, Joe Blow on the street, and I watched violent porn, we would more than likely turn it off or turn away for one reason or another. But a person who has the tendency to rape would watch and enjoy.

A lot of people I know who tend to Dominate would also never rape. It has to do more with abasement and humiliation than actual Domination.

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Well Minah_Pa

That was not ridiculous. I wrote last message when I was just backing up to go to bed. Here is a detailed one.

You are right; Rape and Sex are a bit different but have many common things too. Rape is just a forced sexual intercourse. One person is willing and prepared for it and the other is not. Now rape can be forced on some one know (like on a date), and it can also be forced on some one unknown.

Now sex can even be forced on your partner. In this case, should it be called rape as well? Even many World class legislators are confused by this point. No country has well depiction (agreed by all) for this act. I have heard of cases where one partner (either F or M) was getting the most satisfaction when the act was done as rape. What you say about such people. They are found every where. Now sex is getting pleasure from your partner (there are other ways, ignore them by now), if some one gets more pleasure when being raped, then it is sex.

Even in its pure definition, it has been proved long ago that both persons get their desires satisfied, though the victim may feel assaulted, demoralized or …and rapist may have the opposite feelings. In some cases rapists even have tried to calm down the victim, won her sympathies and then engaged and married to live happily ever after.

Porn has nothing to do with rape until you have some way of digesting it. If some one fails to do so, it can lead that person to rape at some stage of life. About a quarter rape cases have been reported to be initiated by some sort of porn. In kids this ratio is much higher about half (that was the topic of this thread).

Yes men (boys) must have morals as well. It has been noted that normally the desire of having sex is many times higher in men than it is in women. Though if some woman goes mad, then men are just innocent creature.

Violent movies (particularly the ones having some sort of sex in it too, like the hero kills 100 men and then relax with…) are one of the reasons behind rape too. Many cases with gun-shot rape are reported each year and psychologists have affirm belief about the effect such movies have on these cases.

Woman is never guilty when being raped, and man must be treated harshly for that act. Rules must be made harsh and applied.

Desire for dominition is some thing else, though in some cases this is also present in rape in some sense. Now Minah-Pa what things humiliate a person more than havin seen a porn, got high desires and have no way for satisfaction.

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Umer - can we agree that there are many other outlets for someone who needs 'relief'?

Masterbation or a prostitute being two that have no sentence and less social stigma attached to them. If the idea is relief, why is a rape more realistic than the prior two?

No, rape is demoralization, dehumanization, and humiliation of a person by another through forced intercourse. Many times, as I have noted before, a rapist doesn't have intercourse but will use an object. The point is to victimize someone and to strip the power from them, not sex.

Men do not have a higher sex drive, that has not been proved at all. Men and women have the same need and want for sex. Men are more open about it, but women have it as well.

If you believe that there is a corellation between violent movies and rape, please provide the links to the studies. I would be interested in reading something other than what is standardly taught in abnormal psych classes and in victim training, since that view radically differs from what is accepted as a norm.

As I mentioned to PCG, a person with violent tendencies and a prediliction for rape will tend to watch violent movies because they enjoy them more than, let's say, a comedy or romance. But the movie does not make one violent nor does a movie make one rape.

The tendencies and the character are already there, watching violent porn or violent movies is just an outward manifestation of the feelings they already have.

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Prostitution as "relief"?? :-|

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Well,

Most people never prefer masturbation, as for prostitutes, many will never consider them as well. Also, a rapist is a person with some sort of mental illness or problem. With proper treatment they might never go for rape again. I read a very informative article on this subject by a psychiatrist and it was he who actually concluded porn and violent movies as two reasons behind rape. Being ignored by opposite sex, subject to an environment where opposite sex was treated better and family disorders were some other important reasons. Such people prefer to do it their way. They try to tease the victim while getting their desires fulfilled as well. You are right here too; some times they just tease the victim.

As for sexual desire, I also tried to be meant that men are very keen in expressing their desires than women. Most women take some time in all sort of relationship, while most men just want to......

I read this article in a magazine at our university library. It was not my department, we were used to get such information to amuse friends and keep discussions going on. I even can't recall the journal name now. But will try to find it for you.

Porn is like some technology, some people use it just to pass their time or to learn some thing new, while some people can have opposite behavior.

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Some people use them for that purpose too. Sorry if hurt.:confused:

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sara - as relief if the urge is so great you would rape. As a counterpoint against the old "the urge builds up" arguement.

Which is the 'greater' sin? Rape or prostitution?

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Depend on intentions..

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umer - what is the better intention for rape? Come on, think about what you just wrote for a min. If both are for "relief" and that is the intention, why rape when you can buy a prostitute? One hurts and creates a woman who is damaged physically and emotionally for life, the other is a business transaction. How are rape and seeing a prostitute even remotely equal?

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:) :) :)

I was just kidding. Neither rape nor prostitution is a good thing.

Women involved in that business are humans as well. If they have to sell their body to earn their wages, then it is more shameful act to humanity and society than rape. Rape is just one instance that is horrible; prostitution (for prostitutes) is like getting raped politely every day and some times many times a day, just to earn some living.

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Umer - between the two the difference is an issue of consent. Whether or not the prostitute is "raped" politely, it was a choice that prostitute made by accepting the money. If she didn't want to, she'll work as something else or sell something else. It all boils down to consent.

Rape and prostitution are no where close to being the same.

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It is never easy to say. Amongst 100 prostitutes, you can find just 2-8 (depending on society) which satisfy your point of consent. These 2-8 prostitutes accept this as they were never told or encouraged to any other way of living. For them prostitution is another name for life. The rest made their choice based on one of the many reasons, well known to all human beings these days. It will be too long to state them here. It is never easy to survive in this World; some women in every society have to be prostitute, that is how our World is.

Rape is the worst thing that can happen to its victim but rape is just an incident. The victim have a very strong chance of recovering from it and thus to start a new life.

Prostitution is something that is to live forever in most cases.

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Umer - maybe what we have here is a difference based on locale, so let me qualify.

In America, a woman who resorts to prostitution made the choice to make easy money so they don't have to work a 9 to 5 job for less money. It is a choice, no one forced her too, no one closed door for her, a choice. Most use drugs and support that habit by prostitution. Again, a choice to use the drugs and continue to use them. There is no other way to look at this. It is too easy to find a job, any job, even McDonalds, but most take the easy way out instead of working at two or three jobs like the rest of us. I may have pity for a person bend on self-destruction, but it worries me less than the person who had another destroy them.

There is a vast amount of difference between someone who is self-destructive and choses to be a prostitute and someone who had no choice in having everything stripped from her. A Rape victim (one time event) can be emotionally scarred for life. You, having never been raped, cannot possibly understand the emotional damage a one time event can do.

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Prostitution may be selected by some girls as profession, or say most of them have choosen it by thier will. Even then for any woman having sex for money is just a sort of rape. How many prostitudes can manage to involve themselves in good relationship with their customer? This is the same situation as rape. One person is willing to have sex and the other just can't resist. Rape can be forced in a number of ways, through money, power, ....

Now as for prostitutes, you are right, it is better to have them at service instead of commiting rape.

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sorry dear,

I wrote previous message in flow. Have no sort of bad intention. Just a quick reply.

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This is the same situation as rape. One person is willing to have sex and the other just can't resist.

You do not know what the definition of rape is.

A rapist forces sex on his victim. The victim does not want the sex under any circumstance. The fact that the rapist forces himself on her shows that he is not trying to just enjoy himself, but rather he wants power over another human being to abuse them.

A prostitute CONSENTS to having sex with someone, in exchange for money. The difference between rape victim and a prostitute is that a prostitute is willing to do it, a rape victim is not.

A prostitute might not be having a spiritual or emotional experience during the sex and neither is the rape victim. But that common ground doesn't mean the two are the same...

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A prostitute CONSENTS to having sex with someone, in exchange for money. The difference between rape victim and a prostitute is that a prostitute is willing to do it, a rape victim is not.

Well PCG,
I guess you have not followed the posts prior to the one you have quoted. I am talking about Forced Prostitution. In this case, it is almost a rape or even worst than that. Rape (to an individual) can just occur once, but forced prostitution will occur every day, and some times even many times a day. In the beginning the prostitute is forced by power or just for money into the business; afterwards prostitution is forced on her just for the money for rest of her life. A prostitute forced into prostitution is never consent about having sex with someone.
Forced prostitution is worst than rape. It is like being raped each day just for some money.
As for definition of violence against women or kids, there are many ways of forcing such violence, here are some of them:

  • Rape
  • Sexual Abuse
  • Sexual Harassment
  • Intimidation at work, in educational institutions and elsewhere
  • Forced prostitution

Each of them is as horrible as rape…