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im glad someone said this.
rape is all bout power .
just cus paki girls dont report it doesnt mean it doesnt happen in pakiland.
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u think in pakistan HOMO SEXUALITY or RAPE dont xist ???
leme tell u somethin this SOUTH SIDE LOVE FOR LYFE gay fan club is ran by a KARACHIET mehajir dude forgot his name . n in their GAY CLICK all ages of men n women can go n have some great time lol .. still with me ??
n in pakistan i seeen school guys having sex not coz they were gay but coz they wanted a piece of this new STUNING thing SEX they heard about. dono much abt guls but raping in WESTERN COUNTRIES oviously out shine the number in any of the 2nd world countries.
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And I dont think its because of pornography
I think its simply because many a time, an evil personality develops in childhood.
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n isnt porno graphy playin a major roll developing this ** EVIL PERSONALITY ** ?
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it is possible for a girl to rape a boy. most rapes are commited by men but there is a small percentage commited by women. most men are too embarrassed to admit they were raped by a women so they dont report it. a friend once told me there was a group of women who would rape men at gunpoint, but i dont know if it is true or not.
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how abt SCHOOL TEACHERS ??? ya no wa'm sayin ? lol
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Jackie & Sara Yes it is possible and it does happen, but not as much as females being raped by male. In my psychology text book, the author had written stories of boys who were raped by girls. In most cases, a few girls ganged up on the boy and with the help of either a gun or another sharp object (knife etc.), the forced the guy to have sex with them. That's considered rape because the guy was not willing to do it. The question is: How can a guy get erection if he doesn't want to have sex? And the answer is: Some men have erection when they are scared/nervous.
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^ I also remember reading a few times that boys, during the beginning of puberty, have erections even if they're not really aroused. And plus don't "wet dreams" happen even when ur not having a sexy dream?
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Rape is like getting your ‘fix’ or fulfilling your ‘kink’ that usually incurs when mental condition is sporadic and every thing seems to be ‘under control’ including the ‘penalty’ of such heinous crimes that the mind conceives to be acceptable and pardonable.
The deaths by rape rage and man slaughter are the results of ‘struggle & resistance’ that empowers the mind to suggest that what was pardonable might not be pardonable after all if caught in that formidable condition.
The criminal nature yet again empowers the mind to suggest that evidence or the witness is now more dangerous then the ‘punishment’ it self.
We the the readers and debaters in this thread think otherwise as how this crime is a severest of them all and should not be taking place at all.
The problem in the west is based on the general attitude towards such incidents.
If it’s done to an under age person the percentage that would come forward to seek justice is very negligible and quite rightly considers it to be the waste of time.
In few cases more lucrative notions are present that might lure the offended to come forward for monetary gains hence creates a tabloid of an unfolding story that might have taken place way back in the history.
Despite this there are some loud voices heard and the media has covered them in their usual fanfare style killing the main purpose for such braves voice to come forward in the first place. To make the society aware of the injustice and crimes that take place and the sex offenders are pointed out.
The nature of such crime in our society and culture is based on the fact that in some cultures in Pakistan are are still treating female gender as worse than domestic animals and few of the reasons are based on some Islamic believes as well as the cultural taboos that usually are the basis of misquoted interpretations and falsified beliefs and examples.
The punishments and the unequivocal rights for self defense or the rights to accuse the male offenders are often suppressed and quashed before they become a major scandal.
But some courage’s women have now come forward to claim their rightful place in the justice system and voice their tragedies and concerns.
The west still stays numb on such issues unless ‘gains’ are seen and options weigh in.
If not all then some of the these issues are directly related to say the least as to why the mind conceives the idea that ‘It’s alright to molest a weaker gender’
Good thread indeed :k:
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Raindance - some good points mixed in with fairy tales.
In the west there is no stigma for a girl or woman to come forward, so they do for the most part, the exception being where they know the assaulter (usually family or date rape). The reason for that being the proximity of the rapist to the victim and the fear of reprecussions from the rapist. There is no stigma for a woman or girl that is raped because it is not their fault.
The west has never been numb, not like areas that tolerate a public raping for a woman as retribution for a wrong done a family, how numb is that?
BTW: Women/girls raping men/boys constitues 2% of the sex crimes reported each year.
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I have only read a few posts in the begining of the thread.....here is my opinion on the matter. While it is true that these horrible acts do take place in Pakistan as well, we cannot deny the fact that glamorization of porn has an effect on the psyche of these youngsters. Do you not agree that porn desensitize these kids regarding sex? It not only degrades women but some of the crap floating around on the net is absolutely sick...you dont need to take my word for it...just google teen and see for yourself what kind of websites and vile shows up.
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Kaleem - saying porn incourages or in some way helps along rape (not sex) is a way of excusing bad behavior.
Rape is not sexual it is a power play using sex, exerting control and making another powerless. Rape victims react differently from a person agreeing to sex. Again, they cry, plead, and sometimes try to fight off a rapist. Any of those things would stop a man/boy just out for sex, but a man/boy intent on rape needs those things.
Porn may encourage a person (man or woman) to want to experience sex sooner or to experiment, but it doesn't encourage rape because rape has a different trigger - power and control.
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minah, I do understand the difference between the rape and sex. No one knows more about it (being a man)....my wife has a Ph.d in clinical psychology...trust me I have been enlightened, taught, hit over the head and made to remember such issues in great detail. I still believe that sex is a part of rape...its not all control and power, there is an element of sex involved no matter how you try to explain it. Now, blasting sex in the face of the teens and encourgaing them to get involved in disgusting and sick acts only increases the chances of women/girls getting raped.
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I agree somewhat iwth Kaleem and Minah. While the triggers for sex versus rape may be different, you can't deny the effect media has on people these days. With glorified images of women being dehumanized and humiliated, in rap videos and lyrics it's no wonder that boys are bombarded with these images and think that it's acceptable behavior. Pornography has become mainstream unfortunately. I know in high school, girls who went for the "pornstar" look: eight pounds of eyeshadow, no eyebrows, 8 inch acrylic tips. Then you have Jenna Jameson's and Traci Lords' forays into mainstream America with their books and television specials on E! True Hollywood story. Pair all this with parents who are too busy or too blind to notice what their children are watching on television and you have a generation of boys growing up thinking it's okay to harrass and tease a woman...
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Yeah, sara tell us about it...how did you end up watching the "true hollywood stories" of those skanks? :)
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But then who's fault is that?
Two points
-- Parents are not blind and certainly should be doing more about what kids are watching, wearing, or doing. I agree that may be part of the problem. I agree that a certain amount of dehumanization of women in porn does contribute. However a man who will rape women and girls will do it even in areas with no access to porn (like Pakistan). I will agree that it is a factor with people having casual sex and treating casual sex as the norm. But rape - no. A study was conducted using men convicted of rape showing them porn. They were hooked up to a monitor and porn films and pictures were shown to them. No excitment. When shown graphic pictures of violence and humiliation of their particular targets (women, boys, or girls), not sex, but victims subjugated to men, there was excitment. If you give me until the morning, I will find the link, now, shortly I am off to bed. Your wife may know the study I am taking about, a professor of mine conducted it on inmates in the Connecticut prison system.
-- Just because women dress or act a certain way does not mean they are asking for rape. Painting themselves and dressing sexy doesn't mean they deserve to be raped.
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Minah, I was referring to American culture. I'm not saying that women acting or dressing in a certain way invites rape, but the dehumanization and degregadation (sp?) shown in pop culture these days contributes to the attitude that most guys develop, thinking that it's okay to dehumanize a girl..
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Mianh, there is plenty of access to porn in Pakistan...trust me...there are sickos every where and they must be exterminated like roaches.
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there was this speaker who came to talk to us about sexual harassment and rape, she told us that most rape/harassment victims are shy and not talkative or assertive. so dressing like a porn star probably wont attract rapists. and mosts rapes are commited by people you trust or know.
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How did you coem to this conclusion that for most pakistanis rape=sex? There are number of other issues that go into stigmatization of the victims. Rape or sex is not one of them. Your last statement needs revision, I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you really dont know about the pakistani society (not lived there long enough).
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Porn may be available, but it’s not in the mainstream as it is in this country…