Kidnapped ex-ISI officer found dead

did you see the audience in his namaz-e-janaza… it was all filled with hypocrite’s .. the toppers are Gen. Aslam Baig & Lt.Gen Hamid Gul) .. i was expecting this :hehe: ..

i am waiting when i will hear the news these two of them are gone too :k:

until this happened, i am crossing my fingers :wink:

Rumors are not worth any discussion.
By quoting rumors from sabzi-wala and chai-wala, you are becoming a tool in propagating those rumors.

you are takfiri

i hope your man enough to accept it

Poor fella!

He thought he supports the ruthless criminals in the name of Islam, so he would be safe.

That's never the case.

Islam is being used/abused by these criminal Talibots to spread anarchy. And they do not care if you have a 1 foot long beard, or just clean shaven.

They don't care if you have a mehrab on your forehead, or you wear your shalwar above your ankles.

You do hijab or not. Doesn't really matter.

Once you are marked for death, these thug talibots would kill you like you are a pathetic worse than a rat.

All those Mullahs and those clean shaven like Shahbaz sharif should learn from this sad incident, that you are not safe from these butchers.

No matter how much Islamism you talk about, these thugs will have no shame or regrets while cutting your throat.

Pathetic!

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Dawn has an article where Khawaja’s death is connected to the Lal Masjid siege. An analyst suggests that Khawaja, who was close the Lal Masjid leadership, was perceived to have betrayed them to the government during the siege.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/khwajas-murder-points-to-home-truths-350

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Surprisingly, a well researched article int he Jang Group’s The News on what Khalid Khawaja was trying to accomplish.

Key points:

-Khalid Khawaja had been trying to persuade Hakimullah Mehsud that 14 Pakistani Taliban commanders were RAW agents (Qari Zafar, Rana Afzal, Ustad Abdul Samad, Qari Ehsan, Qari Basit, Ustad Aslam, Yasin, Qari Assadullah, Qari Imran, Qari Hamza, Ustad Khalid, Abu Huzaifa, Matiur Rahman and Qari Hussain Ahmad Mehsud)

-One of the main grievances the Pakistani Taliban held against Khawaja was that he labelled Afghan Taliban as Mujhahideen, but labelled Pakistani Taliban as terrorists.

-Afghan Taliban had been trying to negotiate Khawaja’s release

-Afghan Taliban identified these Asian Tigers as being a group of 30-40 individuals expelled from Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the TTP, led by Usman Punjabi and Sabir Mehsud


If the complaint by the Pakistani Taliban that Khawaja considered them to be terrorists is in fact true, then I must admit that this would make him a patriot, however misguided. The Taliban spokesman listed Khawaja’s insistence that the Pakistani Taliban were terrorists as being a major factor in his being killed by the TTP splinter faction that seized him - this would, ultimately, mean that Khawaja’s patriotism for Pakistan led to his death.

Muhammad Omar, a spokesman for Taliban Media Centre that is believed to be operated by the Punjabi Taliban, called this scribe saying the other two men, Colonel Imam and Asad Qureshi, might meet the same fate if the government did not consider the demands of the Asian Tigers seriously.

He claimed all major militant organisations operating in the region had a unanimous opinion about punishing Khwaja. “Everybody wanted him to be executed as he had confessed of all charges against him,” explained Omar who spoke in Urdu.

He claimed that Khwaja and Maulana Shah Abdul Aziz, the former MMA MNA from Karak, during their previous visit to North Waziristan had brought a list of 14 senior Taliban commanders, majority of them Punjabis associated with the banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, and told the TTP leaders, Hakimullah Mehsud and Waliur Rahman that they were getting financial assistance from the Indian intelligence agency, Research and Analysis Wing (RAW).

Omar even mentioned names of militant commanders identified as Indian agents by Khwaja and said among them were Qari Zafar, Rana Afzal, Ustad Abdul Samad, Qari Ehsan, Qari Basit, Ustad Aslam, Yasin, Qari Assadullah, Qari Imran, Qari Hamza, Ustad Khalid, Abu Huzaifa, Matiur Rahman and Qari Hussain Ahmad Mehsud. The last-named is considered to be the master trainer of suicide bombers.

Omar narrated a long list of allegations against Khwaja. He said one of the main causes of his death was his support to the Afghan Taliban and strong opposition to the Pakistani Taliban. “He would call us terrorists and refer to the Afghan Taliban as Mujahideen,” Omar recalled.

In the recent videos released by the Asian Tigers, Colonel Imam had claimed that he had come to North Waziristan on the advice of former Army chief General (retd) Mirza Aslam Beg while Khwaja said he had gone there on the advice of former ISI chief Lieutenant General (retd) Hameed Gul, General (retd) Aslam Beg and Colonel Sajjad of the ISI.

Meanwhile, senior Afghan Taliban commanders, who were negotiating with the Asian Tigers through two senior Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) leaders from Orakzai Agency, said the group comprised 30-40 people, Punjabi and Mehsud, all expelled from their respective groups — the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the TTP.

They said the two TTP leaders had held a meeting with members of Asian Tigers about their demands. The group, they said, told the TTP leaders that they would inform them about the demands within two days. The Taliban commanders said the group was supposed to convey them the demands on Saturday but they killed Khalid Khwaja without any reason.

The Taliban felt someone very powerful was behind the group as despite having limited number of fighters, it was freely moving in the region. “The group is run by Usman Punjabi and Sabir Mehsud — both were expelled from their respective organisations,” the Taliban commander said, wishing not to be named.

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theres so many reports on why khawaja saab was killed, its virtually impossible to pin one as the most likely. theres other reports saying people were targetted by drones after meeting him (infering him as spy) and that he was keen to set up backchannels for talib-US and kashmir-Us contact

if all or some of these stories were true, that would infer col. imam as also working for cia

believe nothing at this stage

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all i can say, this pot of shyt is fill with shyt from rest of the world and doing bullshyt work on my motherland on the name of Jihad.

May all of them burn in hell !

Why would these stories not mean that he was working for ISI (which is much more likely)?

Sorry to say that zaffar abbas is way off base on this.

Lal Masjid fiasco has just one responsible party. And that was the Mullah brothers and their supporters.

Anyone who want to use this failed mantra “Lal Masjid triggered fulana fulana reaction…” is surely high on bad drugs.

It is like a bank robber’s supporter kills a police officer as a reaction to police killing someone in the middle of robbery.

Lal masjid was a cancer, slowly destroying our capital city, and if untreated would have destroyed the whole country.

Swat/bunner clearly show that you cannot negotiate “peace deals” with thugs and criminals even when they raise the flag of Islam.

Why?

Because

Islamism = criminals thugs + Mullah barking in the name of our religion.

Thus Islamism is nothing but a criminal enterprise hell bent on destroying Pakistan.

These Islamists were against the very idea of Pakistan, and they are the ones who declared Jinnah as Kafir.

So what else one could expect from them.

Anything that zaffar Abbas is saying in this misguided essay is simply supporting Jihadis and their sympathizers.

because in the statement they were made to read out khawaja said ''i worked for isi AND CIA''

also other reports say the pakistani military did not trust him

theres more but like i say its not to be believed as truth just yet

mr khawaja may have died a shaheed, who knows for sure

Any confession these men made was obviously forced. You could see from Khawaja's physical condition that he was under duress.

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So, when the Afghan Taliban was warning you guys all along about TTP's connection with India, you guys called it conspiracy.

May Allah have mercy on Khawaja shaheed. May Allah guide the TTP. May Allah help those fighting for the HAQ. May Allah destroy those who help the kuffar in killing their own. Ameeen!!!

At that time I called KHARIJIS the kuffars. Read again.
And yes, it is an insult to Islam to call Talibanic lunatics belonging to Islam.


Interesting thing is that some people support BOTH Talibanic lunatics and Khawaja at the same time. This despite Taliban killed Khawaja for being a spy. So the two can not be right at the same time.


Kh. Khawaja would have learned a valuable lesson, but he was too late. When violence, regardless of the kind, increases in a society then no security is left for ANYONE. There is always a possibility that a splinter group can kill you, no matter how much one may support those violent groups.
In case of Khwaja, it took only one tiny little group to murder one of the godfathers of violent extremism in Pakistan/ Afghanistan.

yeah this Khawajah guy thought of himself as a gad-awful-father of the talibots.

The problem is that many Pakistanis think they are the gad-awful-fathers of the Islamists. That couldn't be further from truth.

The real gad-awful-fathers of Islamists are ARabs sitting in gulf or other sundary cave "complexes".

Pakistanis will remain "rafiqs and miskeens" in the eyes of terrorist Arabs, no matter how long the beard is and how many mehrabs on the forehead. Still miskeen.

And guess what,

Khawaja too died at the hands of Arab Islamists and their chamchas, like a miskeen, like a rafiq.

And many Pakistani supporters of Islamists will remain miskeens and rafiqs in the eyes of these ARrabs, no matter how long they lick the tops and dimagh chooses.

It is time for the toap lickers and dimagh choos followers to wake up. Otherwise they too will go the same way at the hands of Talibots, just like that miskeen Khawajah.

What a sad story.

Yeah story of those who bend over for the enemy and let their own be killed. :k: keep it up burqa

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well given that his funeral was held at lal masjid and conducted by maulana abdul aziz doesn't that put the 'lal masjid leadership was angry at him' theory to rest?

The surviving leadership at Lal Masjid have moderated their actions since the siege.

However, the article referred to extremist elements who hold a grudge about the siege.

Well said.

Lal Masjid drama is being used to justify a lot of cruelties in Pakistan. And that's just like bank robbers and criminals trying to justify their qatlo gharat on one pretext or the other.

The case of Khawaji kharji proves that Islamists in Pakistan will kill anyone and everyone like some rabies infested dog.

No mercy exists in the hearts of these criminals. Perhaps that's the only link between Mullah Ghazi Jahunnmi and the killers hiding in N. Wazirastan.

They just took the life of one of their own this time and threw away his dead body as if it was a dead dog.

What a sad story of this Khawaji Kharji and still Islamists and terror sympathizers refuse to learn.

That was the case because he Khawaja was involved (led by Busharaf) in lying to Maulana Abdul Aziz (may Allah protect him). Khawaja shaheed already admitted to that and people of HAQ learn to forgive their brothers unlike pharoh k bachay bushraf and zardari.

and Lal Masjid massacre will never be forgotten. It will stay alive in the hearts and minds of many more as future events unfold, people on this board (who love to bend over for USA) like it or not.