Re: Kia Hamai'n Zalemeen, Kazebeen or Munafeqeen Par Lanat Bhaijni Chahiay?
yani hazrat Ibrahim a.s., ki doa ki qabooliat mash'kook hay. kia yehee kehna chah rahay ho na ?
jo nasal main say ho kar bhi hazrat Ibrahim a.s., ka na bana, yaani Allah ka hi na bana, kia aisay ki aal mai'n nabuwwat ka ikhtatam hooa? Allah o Akbar....
or agar aap kay likhay hooay lafz "mashkook" kay doosray pehloo ko daikhai'n to yeh bhi lagta hay keh jaisay aap yeh kehna chah rahay ho'n keh "Hazrat Abullah (RA) aur Hazrat Amna (RA) Aal-e-Ibrahim a.s., mai'n hi nahee'n.
kia kehnay aap ki daleel kay, bohat khoob. yaani aap kay baqol Aal-e-Ibrahim a.s., ko dawat-e-haq hi nahee'n mili....... wahhhhh
hanibal aap ka bohat bohat shukria keh aap nay kisi na kisi tarah Aap s.a.w.a.w., kay walidain ko jannati to qarar dia magar maira aap ko yeh mash'warah bhi hay keh aap apnay ulama say aik martabah is silsilay mai'n pooch bhi lo.
Javaid Ahmad Ghamdi l.a., ko fidvi nay khud suna hay tv par yeh bakwas kartay hooay keh (maazAllah) Rasool Allah s.a.w.a.w., kay walidain jahannumi hai'n. or yeh baat unho'n nay aap ki hi aik "sahi" hadees ki kitab say aik "hadees" quote kar kay bayan ki thi.
"aik martabah saad Rasool Allah s.a.w.a.w., kay paas tashreef laay or unhon nay apnay maa'n baap ki babat aap s.a.w.a.w., say daryaft kia keh aakhirat main un ka kia moqam hay? to Aap s.a.w.a.w., nay farmaya keh woh jahannum mai'n hai'n, is par saad afsurdah say ho kar chal diay, jis par aap nay saad ko mukhatib kar kay kaha "saad sirf tumharay walidain hi jahannumi nahee'n hai'n bulkeh mairay walidain bhi ........."
Allah o Akbar.....
hanibal aap ki baat ko manoo'n yaa aap ki "sahi" kitab ya aap kay aalim Javaid Ahmad Ghamdi l.a. ki baaat?
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yani hazrat Ibrahim a.s., ki doa ki qabooliat mash'kook hay. kia yehee kehna chah rahay ho na ?
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U r free to conclude what ever u would like to, the words are as simple as they look like, saying there is no authenticate ref. showing that the Parents (AS) of the Prophet (PBUH) was from Mohideen... this doesn't say that they were not... the reason of absense of such ref. can be numerous... the important point is, they were not their when the Prophet (SAAW) invited everyone ( thats mean all the religions of that time) to Islam.
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jo nasal main say ho kar bhi hazrat Ibrahim a.s., ka na bana, yaani Allah ka hi na bana, kia aisay ki aal mai'n nabuwwat ka ikhtatam hooa? Allah o Akbar....
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Rang Nasal aur nisbat ka Islam aur nabuwat say koy taluq nahi, it was Sons of Yaqoob (AS) who tried to Kill Yousaf (AS). It was Uncle of Prophet (SAAW) who declined him and was condemnd in quran. It was Son of Noah (AS) who declined his father's invitation to the Religion of Allah all mighty was killed. There are numerous example.. and biggest of all of them, the Abu-ul-Anbiya, Hazrat Ibrahim's Father was not only idol-worshiper but idol maker as well... So the Issue of being related to Some family is not ticket to Nabuwt, Wilayat, aur Jannah....
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or agar aap kay likhay hooay lafz "mashkook" kay doosray pehloo ko daikhai'n to yeh bhi lagta hay keh jaisay aap yeh kehna chah rahay ho'n keh "Hazrat Abullah (RA) aur Hazrat Amna (RA) Aal-e-Ibrahim a.s., mai'n hi nahee'n.
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Now that is funny one, Ahl-e-Arab amooman Banu-Isma'il kehlatay haiN.. i know what u r doing... typical shia stance... running away from real issue ( as it cannot be answered) and working on non-issues by assuming them that they exists....
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kia kehnay aap ki daleel kay, bohat khoob. yaani aap kay baqol Aal-e-Ibrahim a.s., ko dawat-e-haq hi nahee'n mili....... wahhhhh
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I think this shows how narrow minded you are... Aal-e-Ibarhim do HisooN maiN batee rahee... Eak Banu-Ishaaq and second one Banu Ismail...
According to Quran.. nabuwat banu Ishaq maiN hi chalte rahee... yahaaN tak kay Hazrat Essa key mo'jazana paida'ish howi aur ussi tarah utha liya gay...
Banu Ismail maiN, Hazrat Ismail (AS) kay baad App (SAAW) ka hi zahoor howa.. so there was Prophets in Aal-e-Ibrahim but they were in Banu Ishaq ( as per Quran).
Now please don't say that the quran is wrong
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hanibal aap ka bohat bohat shukria keh aap nay kisi na kisi tarah Aap s.a.w.a.w., kay walidain ko jannati to qarar dia magar maira aap ko yeh mash'warah bhi hay keh aap apnay ulama say aik martabah is silsilay mai'n pooch bhi lo.
Javaid Ahmad Ghamdi l.a., ko fidvi nay khud suna hay tv par yeh bakwas kartay hooay keh (maazAllah) Rasool Allah s.a.w.a.w., kay walidain jahannumi hai'n. or yeh baat unho'n nay aap ki hi aik "sahi" hadees ki kitab say aik "hadees" quote kar kay bayan ki thi.
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maiN amooman aisay issues per ulema aur apna waqt barbaad nahi kerta jis kay sawal ka meray amaal say taluq na ho... Javaid Ahmed Ghamdi, eak Aalim hay, jis key her dosray aalim key taraah kuch bataiN sahi bhi haiN aur kuch ghalat bhi... apnay amaal key saza ya jaza ussay hi milay gee aur jitna ilm uss kay pas hay ( jaisay kay woh TV pe akser kehta rehta hay) tu ussay bhi apni saza aur jaza ka ilm hoga...
Jahaan Tak Saha-sita ka taluq hay tu unn kay Muqadmay ( Sahi Bukhari etc) maiN musanif ( Imam Bukhari) nay khud likha hay kay this is his best efforts but more work to be done to get rid of fabricated ahadees....
so hadees key kitab ( chahay Bukhari ya Muslim hi kyoN na ho) koy quran nahi... jis maiN ju likha hay woh 100% sahi hay... there are ways to find it out the status of a particual hadees...
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Allah o Akbar.....
hanibal aap ki baat ko manoo'n yaa aap ki "sahi" kitab ya aap kay aalim Javaid Ahmad Ghamdi l.a. ki baaat?
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App na meri manaiN nahi kisi ko mera aalim qaraar daiN, app Quran daikhaiN, wahaaN per saaf likha hay kay aisi batooN maiN ser na khapa'oo jis ka tum say koy taluq nahi... ( kal raat Maghrib kay waqt imam nay yehi ayat tilawat farma'i thee)
MY Question is still unanswered and you are telling me that falaN aalmi yeh kehta hay fala'N yeh.. per where is the straight answer of the question