*Pagluu *– Now you remember “Iteehaad e Bainul Muslimeen” after you have spewed your venom here – All your accusations were debunked.
Don’t even try to pretend to be concerned about “Iteehaad e Bainul Muslimeen” . You were aware and intentions were clear when to posted the BS.
You bring all the BS from extreme 12er sites believing it be true and post it here to cause fitnah.
Don’t suppress your urges now. If you the guts be a man and defend what posted.
Lucky you that I have some spare on me time this week and can take on your challenge and if you persist I will bring forth material attributed to your imams which will make even the hardcore sailors blush.
Now again you have quoted an ayah from the Quran – Please show us how this ayah relates to Hz. Umar (ra)?
In fact if you had only read the ayah yourself you would have got your answer.
"Therefore He made you flee from them, that He might try you. Yet now He hath forgiven you. Allah is a Lord of Kindness to believers". 3:152
Allah (swt) tried the Muslims at the time of battle of Uhud – When the Quraish under the command of Hz. Khalid bin Al Waleed ambushed the Muslims and overwhelmed them, some Muslim fled.
Allah (swt) has stated that He forgave them and that they are the Believers.
Who are you to account them when Allah (swt) Himself has forgiven them and addressed them as Believers?
Guidance is ONLY in the Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet (saw) - And if you are looking for Guidance then you will find it there and not in history books.
History is always distorted, subjective and biased. Leaved it to scholars.
Allah (swt) is not going to ask you questions from history but how much you followed the Quran and the Sunnah of His beloved Prophet (saw).
Therein lies your salvation - Quran and the Sunnah
About right.
Brother, there are much more kharafaat (even about our own Prophet!)in the Saha Sitta but i am refraining from writing them (i respect the book but its not 100% correct and above critical analysis specially considering it was writting during the caliphate of the damned Ummayas). Anyways, life goes on and we all as individuls have the gift of aqal and we all cud reach to our own conclusions if we try. And i think the main thing that counts is our actions that we will be questioned upon on the day of judement and not anyone elses (like Pathan Bhai said earlier). My main rationale behind criticizing Khalifa Umar was because he played the leading hand in a lot of way in issues that have shaped the Muslim ummat for the past and its current state (which is infront of everybody to judge. Its not pretty!). Anyways, disagreements aside, i think its time we post in this forum stuff against our real enemies and expose the likes of the Zionists, America, Britain, their proxy Muslim leaders etc who want to destroy our faith completely.