Katy Perry Shmaty Perry

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PartySlim. The thread was taken off track before me. I merely answered those posts which were still lingering. and even admin(s) participated in it. :slight_smile:

All you have to do is to read my bold-ed statement. :slight_smile:

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Yes it went off track a while back and thus I posted what I did for everyone to stop the nonsense. :slight_smile:

That means from that point on, everyone should stop with the insults and trying to make the other person feel bad. :slight_smile:

Hope you understood that :slight_smile:

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i did, makes no sense, don’t see the relevance, don’t see why you bring in LKK, or voting, or India. a lot of disconnected nonsense, like someone trying desperately to clutch at straws. :slight_smile:

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diwana <3 queer

:rotato:

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And immediately after, I did not post off track, did I? Post # 91 and later 97.

But when you posted again you quoted me. Thanks a lot! :slight_smile:

Just because you have soft corner for queer as it is shown periodically by you, does this mean I have to be on receiving end of your soft ā€˜warning’?

I will call out those who cry against hypocrisy but act hypocritical themselves. :slight_smile:

Happy to discuss further in PM if you like. :slight_smile:

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partyslims bro … You can delete posts too … An option without giving out infractions.

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Did not post link of caste system still alive in India which you denied not being supported by people there… because then you will come back and say it was merely cut and paste..just like you repeatedly criticize LKK.

Happy now on this explanation? :slight_smile:


My only problem is why bring Hindu scripture as a supporting evidence

to equate it to Quranic verse?

Especially if someone acts so much supporter of atheism or irreligious ideas.

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You posted an insult after I said not to. If I wanted to I could already have given you an infraction for it, but I didn’t. That had nothing to do with having a soft spot for queer. In fact you already insinuated people being liars (who was that directed to, Southie right? Pretty obvious there, but i let that one go because I gave you a chance) . But then you directly said idiotic. And that is why i quoted it.

I’m not gonna get involved in your cirlcle jerkular arguments over PM. :slight_smile: So tone it down now. Last warning.

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To all the defenders of Islam in this thread, when was the last time you guys read the whole Quran with translation / meaning. You guys are doing more damage to your religion than any good.

[Quran 6:108] Do not insult beliefs/gods of other religions
[Quran 31:18] Do not be arrogant
[Quran 4:148] Control your tongue
[Quran 49:11] Do not ridicule or mock anybody
[Quran 41:34] Respond to people nicely, i.e. do not be offensive

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Then we have a whole bunch of people complaining about that. It’s really a no win situation. I asked for people to be civil in three different threads.

I don’t like giving infractions,nor do I unless it is absolutely warranted, and enough stuff has been said to warrant infractions to a lot of people, but I just asked nicely not to fight and respect one another. But then it’s like be nice, get taken advantage of too.

Most of you all need to calm down and realize this is just the internet and if someone has opposing ideas, it’s not meant as an afront to you or your family or your beliefs. But don’t insult them for having opposing ideas. That is all. Have fun, joke, you can be sarcastic as well, but know your audience. Words can hurt, even if they are just online. So if one is a believer in not causing hurt to others because it is gunnah, then sorry a lot of people on here are commiting a boat load of gunnah with your words. And those that don’t believe or care about that, that’s what i’m here for right? To clean up your messes, and arguments, because I have nothing better to do. Sheesh!

None of the above directed at you psyah, just letting out some frustrations.

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here, diwana friend. let me help you out for once. its simple - to Southie he thinks he’s being nice by showing he considers your scripture equal to his. and he doesn’t find atheism threatening because GS atheists don’t go around attacking his scriptures, they just want to be left alone by those citing scriptures and preaching hellfire to them. capiche? :slight_smile:

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The caste system by the way is still alive in Pakistan being practiced my MUSLIMS. Ask someone from a posh area to go and sit down with someone from the slums and have a meal with them, or talk to them. Also ask the same person in that posh area to sit down and have lunch with their own chef or chauffeur. Yeah, good luck. Islam teaches that all humans are equal regardless of their social status and we preach the same in schools. But Pakistani muslims are the biggest hypocrites - they do not practice what they preach.

Meanwhile this is what our muslim brothers are busy with.

I reiterate what i said in the first post. We have much bigger problems in our own backyard. Fix your own self and stop your futile arguments with everyone.

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I am quoting ayaat so that Cheegums brief commentary(tafseer) will be understood well in the context of ayat and other beautiful messages in the ayat are not missed. That is only for those people who are interested in reading this. Not for those brothers and sisters who think muslims try to force their religious teachings and scripture citations on them as their is no jabar in islam. and also not for those who think we are sending them to hell, because nobody knows what their final abode is going to be.

[Quran 6:108] And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah , lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.

[Quran 31:18]And do not turn your cheek [in contempt] toward people and do not walk through the earth exultantly. Indeed, Allah does not like everyone self-deluded and boastful.

[Quran 4:148] Allah does not like the public mention of evil except by one who has been wronged. And ever is Allah Hearing and Knowing.

[Quran 49:11] O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule [another] people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule [other] women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by [offensive] nicknames. Wretched is the name of disobedience after [one’s] faith. And whoever does not repent - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.

[Quran 41:34]And not equal are the good deed and the bad. Repel [evil] by that [deed] which is better; and thereupon the one whom between you and him is enmity [will become] as though he was a devoted friend.

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*Southie is nice but may be you need to learn from him to be nice towards hinduism too.

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Since when have blue collar jobs been classified as or under a caste system. A person living in a posh area calls himself khan , then a chauffer , cook , slum dweller could also be calling himself a khan. What is the difference between the two, different socio-economic layering not caste. There’s no harm in your domestic helper eating with you and atleast he does not require any specific quota reservation to secure his voting right and representation in government jobs.

I always find one thing extremely distasteful i.e, retaliating in a similar way, when someone belonging to a different ethnic group, religion, nationality, insultingly points out issues we as muslims(entire muslim world) and Pakistanis are facing, because escapism is not the solution. Though sometimes its necessary to give them a reality check to control the wagging tongues.

As you have brought up the issue of camel jockey-ing, I am so tempted to list more issues but lets first focus more on this one. We know kids used as camel jockeys are also smuggled from Pakistan. Now that cheegum has brought up the issue and has mentioned the skin burn printer in the context of our technological backwardness, please tell cheegum what steps should be taken to resolve these issues. How can we start campaigning against child jockey problem? How to empower our people? Maybe a new thread. Learning under your tutelage would be a privilege.

And not referring to this incident the caty purry one. But Allah’s name could be a mere ā€˜religious symbol’ to some muslims but not all.

And thankyou for calling all pakistani muslims biggest hypocrites. I thought partyslim had issued a warning regarding that or maybe thats a comment that could also be tossed into a certain rhetoric category.

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Peace Rainydays. By raising these issues i am showing my people the mirror i.e. know the problems that are haunting your own house rather than pointing fingers at others.

The first step towards solving any problem is identifying it first. My keyboard warrior Muslim brothers and sisters are living in some sort of a utopia where we Muslims have solved all our problems and so we can start vilifying other people and faiths.

Muslims are centuries behind in education. Sad part is most of these internet Muslims don’t even realize it. All these problems have a solution i.e. educate everyone. My job is to show my own people the problem. I am doing whatever is in my power to tackle this issue of illiteracy, including raising awareness.

One of the horrors of the caste system is treating people as untouchables. We Pakistani Muslims blame Indians of that but engage in the same on a daily basis. I’ve lived the first eighteen years of my life in Karachi and I’ve seen this being practiced regularly.

Thank you for quoting the ayahs that i referred to, i could have copy pasted too. Instead i wanted to give people the gist in a couple of words.

And finally i did not call any one person any names but rather all my countrymen to awaken their ghairat. I would not mind any infraction points they’ll make me look like a bad boy.

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Ummm I can’t read the entire thread right now so I don’t know if this has already been posted, BUT it appears that the video being discussed has been edited to remove the Allah pendant. An online petition was the reason behind the change :smiley:

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ā€œItna sannata kyu hai, bhai? Very hee calm.ā€

Let us all go the what peeved us off in the motorway thread and make some noise.

PS What is a Motorway?

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The UK equivalent of a US freeway or interstate..

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Rainy days

Thanks for the kind words in ur prev post. Since u brought up queer wrt his lack of respect for Hinduism, please allow me.

Context matters. Read that post couple days ago. I believe he was responding to a statement about Hinduism a member had made in another thread. (Which I posted here to make a point - wont discuss that now).

queer was simply stating that Hinduism is too complex to be boiled down in such simple slogans. I took that not as an attack on Hinduism, but an attempt to provide context to other User. ( again, I am NOT trying to revive the debate. I am just stating how I viewed queers post since you referred to him and me in ur post.

At the risk of destroying q’s street cred, his equal opportunity irreverence and sarcasm are isotropically directed. Not at Religions. But at those with double standards. From ANY religion.

I do have 2 irreconcilable differences with him.

  1. Minimum wage
  2. Calling me a Multi of Mr. Monk. There was, is and will be only one Mr. Monk.